before we get into what we ve been talking about, there was news today from the administration that the mueller investigation is reaching itser final stage. do you think that s true, and what does that mean exactly? i hope so, tucker. two years of this is two years too long. we need some answers and it needs to happen. soon. this could be the bests thing that happens to the country in a very long time. if it is indeed finishing up. tucker: well, what a distraction from a lot of important things that are happening. as someone who covers the criminal justice world for a living, give us some perspective. late middle-aged guy, no history of violence, no passport, no firearms in the home. under investigation for over a year. emails and texts already in thes position of the prosecutor. would you send dozens of armed men to arrest him? is that normal?ed no, of course not. of course not. of course it s not normal. as you say, the standardo,
and help to the epmy, a hel the enemy, but i don t understand that, because that is somebody we are at war with, and so that is a signal that they will impose prison time if they go ahead, and so the only problem is that robert mueller s team feels that he has been done with cooperation, and it is not clear how much cooperating he could do to basically wash away the sins here, and come away with no prison time. so it is extraordinary hearing, and we have a are recess until 12:30 while the defense is thinking long and hard about what the judge has warn ed them about. pete, joining us is ken delainian, and pete, i wanted to tell you that chuck rosenberg is with us a former u.s. attorney, and senior fbi official, and of course, carol lee our colleague who covers national security. this has been extraordinary. and just seeing the notes from inside of the court. judge u sullivan as we said a few moments ago hypothetically
range, a range, and so that is interpr interpreted a little bit differently. i think that flynn did himself a disservice by making those arguments about the nature of the interview, even though now the judge is asking him if he is taking responsibility, and it is yes, but it caused the judge and the special counsel to focus back on the bad acts that he did as opposed to the good acts of the cooperation. so it is hard to know what the judge would have done if this had not transpired this way, but it did. the judge a little bit ticked off and rightfully so. while you are right that an ordinary case of false statements and zero to six months and someone who cooperate ed no jail time, and this is not an ordinary case or ordinary defendant. someone like mike flynn should be held to a higher standard and so i think that the judge is showing that, and he is trying to keep flynn in line if he needs to continue cooperating. and of course, also rudy
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