minimum corporate tax rates. it s still unclear. we did have richie neal, the house ways and means committee chairman, talked to her yesterday and complained kind of, you know, it s the ninth inning here. they re pretty far into this process and for sinema to still be out there on the side lines, that s a problem for democrats. so there s lots of ways to raise taxes that are just not graced. it s whether they re politically acceptable and whether progressives will accept them. thank you, ali. sadly we didn t get time to discuss the smu lame game last night. i m joined now by another member from the ways and means community, she s a democrat from washington state and chair of the centrist new democrat coalition. so congressman, i can t think of a better person to ask here given the reticence from senator sinema here on the tax question. what are your other options to come up with that revenue?
we have responsibility not only to meet but to beat the paris agreement goals, and we also have a responsibility to help poorer countries with technology and assistance in order for them to meet their goals. those countries are not responsible for very much of the climate crisis, but they are paying a big price because of their vulnerability. i had the privilege of speaking in spain right before covid at the most previous covid 25 session on the vulnerables, and those countries in their own presentations show that they re they pay the price sooner than any of us, and yet, they re least responsible for the emissions. so we have that big responsibility. so it isn t about a particular plant. it s about reaching our impoels and how we do it. i feel satisfied the path we re on to do that. reporter: the tax question,
olivier, exactly what pieces you get. i would throw in rural broadband which is wildly popular. one thing about the tax question it makes the bill more popular. when you poll, here s what you ve got, that list of policies, one level of popularity and also if you say this is going to be paid for by raising taxes and on corporations the thing gets more popular. it s difficult to sell because the size and scope and specificity of the plan sun clear. democrats have been frustrated this week with biden on two fronts. one is his involvement in the negotiations and saying what he wants. that s turned a corner now. he s being a lot more specific behind the scenes about what he wants to see in this thing and then in the sales pitch. one of the reasons that the afghanistan withdrawal was bad for president biden politically is it coincided almost exactly when he and cabinet officials were going to fan out across the country to start to build momentum behind this legislation and it meant that th
get i think it has let inflation get a i think it has let inflation get a bit out of control. we will get a bit out of control. we will have get a bit out of control. we will have to see how they choose will have to see how they choose to respond in the months ahead choose to respond in the months ahead but choose to respond in the months ahead. but the government is going ahead. but the government is going to ahead. but the government is going to have to be extremely focused going to have to be extremely focused on the day today cost that it focused on the day today cost that it is focused on the day today cost that it is imposing on people, the energy price of course which the energy price of course which we have just been discussing is one, further taxes discussing is one, further taxes is discussing is one, further taxes is another one, as former local taxes is another one, as former local government secretary i am aware local government secretary i
so we will have to see how they choose to respond in the months ahead. but the government is going to have to be extremely focused on the day to day costs that it s imposing on people. the energy price of course which we have just been discussing is one, further taxes is another one, as a former local government secretary i m aware the next tax question will be council tax, and that will be settled at the spending review in a couple of weeks. that ll be a significant extra cost for a lot of low income and middle income families. are you calling for a council tax freeze then, robert? i don t think that s realistic, because council tax has to pay for social care and a lot of other important public services, but i would be nervous if you saw it rising by, say, 5%. it s likely to be a three year settlement and so that could be a 15% increase over the course of this parliament. that would make me concerned. robert, we ve got a bit more time with you, but martin, i know you ve got to dash in