movement of compassion and action? immediate need is medicine, food, water, and shelter, but what then? you know, how do you build infrastructure? how do you make people self-sufficient? where is education? the employment of women. post traumatic stress disorder management. these are long-term issues and we have to address them. larry: some others things i want to discuss. what do you make of the james arthur ray story? you re a motivational speaker, too. what do you make of sweat lodges? well, they ve been used for hundreds of years. they re part of the american tradition. american-indian tradition. sweat lodges are part of a tradition. larry: what are they supposed to accomplish? traditionally they re supposed to in a sense detox your body and mind. i think anyone who does them should either know the traditional methodology or be medically qualified. if you re dealing with people who are middle-aged or who have
the defense is this is a tragic accident. nobody, certainly not james, did not foresee consequences like this. he took as i said earlier safeguards as far as we can tell are go beyond other sweat lodges, and as i say, did not prevent anybody from leaving if they got in trouble. if the clip we showed of that woman is indicative of the kind of witnesses the prosecution is going to present, you appear to be up against it. i mean, she looked very you have to present other witnesses who say she s not telling the truth or what? i ve been doing this for 30 years, and i feel very strongly about our criminal justice s. the government has to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, and this is this should not be a criminal case. this should not be a criminal case. this was an accident, and you know, i don t want to say we re looking forward to it, but because we re going to be there, we re confident that if the truth comes out no crime will be proven here. larry: would you agree that
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care. so how can we make this a global movement of compassion and action? immediate need is medicine, food, water, and shelter, but what then? you know, how do you build infrastructure? how do you make people self-sufficient? where is education? post traumatic stress disorder management. these are long-term issues and we have to address them. larry: some others things i want to discuss. what do you make of the james arthur ray story? you re a motivational story, too. what do you make of sweat lodges? well, they ve been used for hundreds of years. they re part of the american tradition. american-indian tradition. sweat lodges are part of a tradition. larry: what are they supposed to accomplish? traditionally they re supposed to in a sense detox your body and mind. i think anyone who does them should either know the traditional methodology or be medically qualified. if you re deal with people who
watched them. when you get to mile 23, yes, people encourage you to hang in there. you can do it. i think james did that. i think others in the sweat lodge, too, encouraged others. there was encouragement but no compulsion. everything was volunteer. larry: did people sign a release saying he would not be held responsiblresponsible? yes, yes. larry: what s the purpose of the sweat lodge? it s part of the five-day experience of the spiritual warrior. james philosophy is not just thinking great thoughts, it s converting thoughts into action. he motivates people. he wants them to realize that they can push themselves. that s parts of what the spiritual warrior event is, and the sweat lodge is about that. sweat lodges are common. high school students in los angeles use sweat lodges, professors use sweat lodges, professional people use sweat lodges. larry: they ve been successful? they ve been successful. larry: james ray was on this show a few times.