a bomb, but they have to treat it like it is. the other part that was interesting, law enforcement got an address in redland, california, these people had come up some way in the investigation as someone they should surveil. and if i m not mistaken, the chief said they went there to surveil it. so while they were surveilling it, the target vehicle, the black suv, moved. and, of course, they would follow it, but it moved back toward san bernardino, and back toward the center. jim, let me stop you there for a second. i want you to take a look at what we ve got here on our air. it appears to be and this, i believe, is a live shot, some kind of vehicle with a huge pole in front of it, kind of battering ram, entering a house somewhere. do you have any sense of what s going on there? yeah, that s a bear cat. it has a ram that you can affix to the front, and it takes door down. you know, so that s a pretty standard s.w.a.t. tactic, if