there s no definitive evidence a is accurate and b, rich because that s the argument democrats is been make for months. bill: on the point on voting now you have to prove intent and have to get inside the mind of a voter in rural michigan to figure out whether or not you can prove that. that s for another day. perhaps another month. perhaps another year. mary anne, come back to the point the president s making. he s saying this is the real story that they were surveilling us last year. last answer. no, the real story is the fbi and others were surveilling russian targets under investigation. now, if donald trump and other trump associates are on the tapes then lets put them out there. let s list everybody out there and let everybody know what was said. that could clear it up and that could be done today. bill: i think we d like to figure it out and understand it.
this new jersey case, even if they don t knock it up to a biased case, they face five years in prison. it is illegal to set up a web cam in the state of new jersey. right. without someone s knowing and when do you take it to the next level. here s the problem, exactly, you are talking, about the students and people that actually went in and invaded the person s privacy and it is a felony, 3rd, 4th degree, 2 to 5 years, for the people who invaded but, when we talk about facebook and skype and all of these melding together, shouldn t the companies, the technology providers, also be on the lookout. theorihere s the danger, you throw zucker berg and facebook in jail because a college student broadcast something they shouldn t do? the problem is, if you have the companies under government surveillance that means the government will be surveilling us and who will protect us? i think that the real privacy issue, if you tried to say the companies have to go to jail because people sen