him and said, oh my god, he did it. i just remember screaming. probably the scariest moment my entire life. it was physically painful. it was not justice. the murders took only minutes. all these years later, the shock has yet to fade. it was a stunning time. and american legal theater. you think you might know the story of the oj simpson case, but there s a lot you probably haven t heard and seen. did nicole brown simpson actually predicts her own death? what she said to us was that oj is going to kill me. and he s going to get away with it. what went on in the jury room? not guilty of the crime of murder. all the people wanted to do was go home. in a frank interview prosecutor marsha clark answers the most important question of all. how did you not convict this guy? june 12th, 1994. brentwood, california. two horrific murders that came to be defined by just three words. the oj case. everybody seen a dramatic scene in both victims had their throats/
their entire families, and that s the point. that is the point. the maga movement has used threats of violence and the possibility of danger as a key tool of anti-democratic coercion. luxurious kordell served as a judge for 19 years, including 13 on the superior court of california. she joins me now. judge kordell, first, just your reaction to the stories which came one after another about each of these figures receiving this kind of intimidation. chris, first of all, swatting is the act of a coward. it is a federal crime, punishable five years to life, and it s a crime in some of the states. but last, year chief justice roberts gave his year-end address, and in it he addressed the fear that judges face today. one of the things he said is a judicial system cannot and should not live in fear. and he s right, of course. because the cardinal rule of judging is to rule without fear or favor. but fear, today, it s the new normal for charges in america.