to be in exile. who needs who more right now, would you say? well, thanks for having me. i think the simple answer is, when it comes to russia s africa policy, the russian state needs wagner far more than wagner needs the russian state to conduct its operations in africa. specifically in the central african republic and mali most especially right now. what do you think it says that putin essentially allowed prigozhin back into the country? prigozhin back into the count ? ~ ~ country? well, i think it essentially country? well, i think it essentially shows - country? well, i think it essentially shows the i country? well, i think it i essentially shows the fact country? well, i think it - essentially shows the fact that wagner is crucial to the russia africa summit and it s crucial to russia s ability to project influence and power on the continent. and so prigozhin s appearance in st petersburg at this summit isn t surprising, because ultimately i think the russian state is in a bit