another bakery and there is stealing going on and they don t want to be accused of profiling so they do nothing. what sense does that make? some police departments are now pulling back from tough enforcement in certain neighborhoods. they don t want to be accuse much of police brutality same thing with me too. now male managers don t want to mentor women or be in the same room as female colleagues because they don t want false accusations it s gotten pretty crazy. martha: the bottom line is you have to understand the facts of the story. as i said you can t just make it into what you would like it to be. the fact that oberlin is saying their expressions in this matter were free speech is how about stepping up and saying you know what? this is a powerful lesson for all of us in this community. this is an upstanding store that has been here for a long time. we were wrong. and we want to set the record straight. what a powerful lesson that would be for all of those students. jesse: e
officials about that. also top counter-terrorism officials. is that sort of a productive next step in your mind and what do you want to know from them? i think it is a productive step. i haven t seen the story but it is consistent what what i would expected. a lot of the questions that relate to the origins of this go to the cia. it was alexander downer who was john brennan s cia counterpart at one point in time for australia that supposedly had this random conversation with george papadopoulos that served as the predicate. there is a lot that attorney general barr, i think, has said doesn t jive with respect to that and that s why john durham is looking at the issues that the democrats aren t willing to look at. , you know, it s funny, martha, we all waited for two years for bob mueller to come out and say very clearly no collusion no, conspiracy by donald trump. but you wouldn t have known that in the hearing today. the democrats repeatedly said there was collusion.
it was a classic story of good vs. evil. and those stories transcend time. i think it would be a mockery if they were out walking the streets. walking the same streets that she walked. as free people. she was almost like she floated not walked. it could not have happened to a more beloved child. we would be getting ready in the morning and both looking in the mirror and she would reach over and say you are soft and i would say you are softer. for a long time i looked in that mirror and i would see her. paula s father, before he died, described the enormity of the loss of his only daughter in a victim s statement. many generations will have to pass to bring another like paula. she was modest and generous and a friend to the friendless. paula should have lived to be a mother. she should have lived to be a grandmother.
i have lost her and her splendid progeny. martha: boy, that is quite a story. here now new york city police department veteran detective rockland county executive ed day. you remember all of this playing out. how is it possible, given what we just saw that these two men are free or can be free in the coming weeks? it could not be possible. what we have now off of its mission. a board that is supposed to be a purveyor of justice to a perversion of justice. murder is a crime of permanency. you just heard one of the most brutal murders i have ever been involved n my years in two different police departments. this young lady was brutally beaten and the last part that was missing was when la
situation they took ownership with what happened. even the university of virginia when that fake rolling stone article came out they stepped back and said you know what? we did a few things wrong here. oberlin college really needs to own what they did. martha: what lesson can these students walk away with. if i just keep claiming that it didn t happen or that they are wrong, it s going to turn out to be the truth. it s simply not. jesse: 11 million could be 23 million. they are just going to pass that money on to students. their parents are going to have to pay higher tuition fees that s a lot of dough. martha: parents helping their children decide between oberlin and another college look at this story and what they might be getting into if they re interested in truth. that s what every parent should decide. now for something completely different a little bit of soccer, 13-0. the american women had a huge victory. however, there is a loft push back for the fact that they scored 1