more bullets. he was trying to shoot more people. two men according to the sheriff grabbed the gun away from loughner and tackled him and that is when was in custody with authorities soon after that. as for the second person they are esectionly discounting that he was a part of the shooting but do want to talk to him because he showed up in the photograph walking into the safeway near gerald lee loughner. we are back with former counter terrorism chief with the fbi steve pomerantz and stuart baker a former official in the department of homeland security. stuart, you listened to that, barring the political stuff, this investigation is digging deep. they are going to go into e-mails, they are really going to try to dig into who this character has come in contact with? we, the worst says here is if it were a terrorist conspiracy. not much evidence of that but all the leads have to be
the fbi director alluding to possibly some exchange that loughner may have had with the congress woman there saying it will be in the formal charges this afternoon. also that he purchased the gun that he used november of last year in tucson, 2010. joining me now with more on the investigation and to interpret what we just heard, former counter terrorism chief with the fbi steve pomerantz and stuart baker. former official in the department of homeland security. welcome to you both. steve, first to you. you just listened to all of that. how do you interpret it and secondly how is it that an fbi director is at the command center? interesting that you ask me that question because i m going back four years in my recollection and 40 years of service i never remember an fbi director will take command at the scene.
followed to see if there in any influence by outsiders, any conspiracy and that will require dig into his electronics pretty deep. bret: steve, the sheriff said that congress woman giffords office actually invited loughner to the event because he had some communication with her office based on a 2007 meeting similar to the congress on your corner that he appeared at with loughner back then. perhaps there was some kind of back and forth and some kind of communication now and they invited him to attend. which leads you to believe there was obviously no information in their possession or anybody s possession that indicated he was a threat of any kind or they wouldn t have done that. they obviously felt that he was as far as they knew safe and a person to invite to an event like this. bret: when you hear the fbi director say that right now they don t have a specific threat remaining and the
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that was a big story just a few weeks ago. do they have the capability to pull off an attack like this? let s ask steve pomerantz, former assistant fbi directer. steve, what do you think about that? well, the it s a scenario that we ve been worried about for years, it s one of the many different types of attacks that we concern ourselves about, and certainly it s within the realm of possibility and something we need to watch and be alert for. jenna: you say we ve been worried about it for years, but many that are watching right now probably haven t heard too much about it. we have to get scanned and patted down to get on an airplane, but you don t have to do any of that to go to a restaurant. yeah. well, again, attacks on aircraft have been one of the sustained attacks they ve mounted against us. we ve talked about weapons of mass destruction, we ve talked about the use of poisons and gases. and, indeed, in the past, in the history of terrorism in the past 20 years, we ve seen all