and famously said may justice be done though the heavens fall. nowadays it seems more apt that we would hear may my side when no matter what. we are joined by two men that prosecution covered state and federal elliott file and brett tolman. welcome to you both, elliott let me start with you. sometimes prosecutors get stuck with unsavory witnesses. but it looks like the former vice president mike pence might be a star witness for the prosecution whether he wants to be or not, what you make of that. those huge part of the indictment if i m the prosecutor on this case i would lean into moment were donald trump said to mike pence the problem is your too honest. if i m the prosecutor i would hit that hard, logically speaking when would you say to someone you are too honest to do this unless you knew deep down
brought to the attention of the court by special prosecutor jack smith based in florida now against donald j trump, walt nauta and carlos nevada, in motion filed today he said today who was appointed by donald trump that walt not as defense council stanley woodward has divided loyalties in the case, because the new star witness for the prosecution used to be represented by stanley woodwork, who will have to cross examine that witness at the trial. jack smith wrote an attorney who cross-examined former or present client inherently encounters divided loyalties. the motion tells the judge that stanley woodward used to represent trump employee for,
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but maybe it s a riskier venture to try to get the president s daughter. it s an interesting question, jake. sometimes what you can get without ruffling more feathers than are necessary. they would give you similar testimony. maybe you settle on just one. but this is a really important point. even if you think somebody s going to give you testimony as a prosecutor that s not helpful to your case or that s even harmful to your case, you still want to put that person in the grand jury, whether it s jared kushner, ivanka or someone else. first of all, you want to know what they have to say. if they have something that s harmful to your case, you need to know that. second of all, you want to essentially neutralize them if they re ever called as defense witnesses. you ll have had the advantage of already questioning them. so the fact that someone is called into the grand jury doesn t necessarily mean they re going to be some kind of star witness for the prosecution. there s good tactical
allen weisselberg has agreed to testify after pleading guilty for not paying taxes on nearly $2 million in off the books income. maggie haberman was asked what trump might be thinking about the trial. reporter: anything involving trump s business is painful for him if it involves courtroom or a prosecutor of any kind. just tarnishes the company further at a time when the company is not expanding, at best it is in stasis. allen weisselberg is going to be a star witness for the prosecution. there are few people who have been around donald trump and with such knowledge of how that business works as allen weisselberg. so even if this doesn t personally touch on trump criminally, this is not going to be a series of good news days for him. the former president is not a defendant in the case and isn t expected to be implicated in any way of any wrongdoing. now just ahead on cnn newsroom, public protests are