obviously, they themselves would say today. out of the desire to bring americans home. we have seen this again and again. there s a difference between a normal spy swap and a prisoner exchange. what makes it complicated when you have people you believe are basically innocent, if not completely innocent, maybe a drug charge that might or might not be valid. but that s minor compared to what we are talking about, everybody in washington believed brittney griner being held as a political hostage, a bargaining chip by the russians. when do you put aside that stand that we don t negotiate with bad guys to get bring good guys home to deal with the humanity of a family that s sitting here waiting for their loved ones at the be sprung from a russian prison? which not a nice place to spend a lot of time. no, not at all. peter baker, thank you so much. deal or no deal? chuck schumer and joe manchin striking an agreement on climate and health care. can they get all the democrats on board to
who had been held captive in russia, reed will speak to us shortly on new day. in 2014 bowe bergdahl was traded for five detainees, he was held captive for nearly five years by militants during the u.s. war in afghanistan. in 2010 the u.s. and russia completed a spy swap at an airport in vienna. russia released four men imprisoned, they were traded for ten russian agents, including anna chapman. in 1986 a dissident was released to the west in exchange for a mole in the cia. and francis gary powers, his spy plane was shot down over the soviet union in 1960. powers finally returned to the u.s. in 1962 in an exchange. steven spielberg s film bridge of spies based on that event. let s bring in steve hall, cnn national security analyst and former cia chief of russia
russians likely to go along with deal? i don t know. these are every one of these are unprecedented, right. i was involved in a spy swap for instance back there 2010. we did not reveal the negotiations of that until they were on the tarmac. so this is a bit unusual that secretary blinken is even talking about it. my guess is that they will indict griner, they will give her a sentence first, before they let her out. before there is a trade. and i want to be clear, we re all talking about victor bout and secretary blinken has not talked about him so we should be careful in presuming that we know this deal has already been consummated. michael, how much is the war in ukraine and whatever leverage the russians might want to have over the u.s. when it comes to the war in ukraine, complicated all of this. you referred to a previous spy
0 into this. if it is a semantic game almost. if you re in a recession or not, as if you re running a small business and you can t find anybody to work in your shop and it feels like a recession. willie, that is exactly it. so when you go consumer confidence is down, of course it is down. go purchase anything and things are more expensive. so naturally one would feel that way. what we need to do right now is figure out what people need to do to be saving because what we re heading into, more than anything, is uncertain times. but to say that this administration isn t addressing things, they are. whether you re talking about chips or broadband, lowering the price of pharmaceuticals, you re actually seeing democrats try to make moves that will make life easier and more affordable for the american people. and while it is easy for republicans to beat on the inflation story because everybody out there is talking about it, they have not yet offered any alternate solutions. it is complicate