go after spillover, they thought they were protecting science. i think in reality what they did by not aggressively going after both hypotheses including the lab leak they hurt the credibility of science. bill: i learned from our foia lady that s quite a phrase how to make emails disappear after i m foiaed but before the search starts and i think we re all safe. what a lot of americans are wondering, if tax dollars went to the wuhan lab, we need to know. and if gain of function achieved this, we need to know. how much have you thought about how we prevent the next virus from happening? yeah, i think it s so important, bill. this as i wrote an op-ed in the wall street journal. i called for a moratorium on gain-of-function research. i think that research in my view, my opinion, is what caused
this pandemic. it was a pandemic that was really caused by scientific arrogance. we re at risk for another pandemic. a lot in the news about bird flu. it has the potential to cause a pandemic at some point. i don t think it is likely to happen from spillover. but i do think it is likely to happen from gain-of-function research in the laboratory. so i don t see the necessity for this research. there are some scientists and fauci have been big advocates. they try to protect science and the ability to do gain of function of research and not have it regulated. i think that s a mistake. we need to put a moratorium on it. this is the type of research that needs to be highly regulated and i think that s at the heart of a major disagreement that i have had with tony over the years. dana: many democrats some democrats on the committee are frustrated and saying the republicans are too backwards looking.
Itself. If ukraine is able to defend itself and we participate together in the reconstruction of yeah, ukraine has of ukraine, ukraine has got a lot of natural a resources. It has got a huge development potential, and i think that ukraine will have a lot to thank for any kind of help but also repay any kind of loan. This support is indispensable for ukraine. That is why i urge them to support as soon as possible, because russian aggression has to be stopped. Thanks to support with equipment, thanks to support with guns, ukrainians, i firmly believe, are able to stop russia, russian aggression themselves with our support so that it does not spill out, spill over. Maria mr. President , it has been more than two years. Do you think ukraine can win this . Translator that is not a question of ukraine winning this war, it is a question that russia does not win it
itself. if ukraine is able to defend itself and we participate together in the reconstruction of yeah, ukraine has of ukraine, ukraine has got a lot of natural a resources. it has got a huge development potential, and i think that ukraine will have a lot to thank for any kind of help but also repay any kind of loan. this support is indispensable for ukraine. that is why i urge them to support as soon as possible, because russian aggression has to be stopped. thanks to support with equipment, thanks to support with guns, ukrainians, i firmly believe, are able to stop russia, russian aggression themselves with our support so that it does not spill out, spill over. maria: mr. president, it has been more than two years. do you think ukraine can win this? translator: that is not a question of ukraine winning this war, it is a question that russia does not win it.