Crew rolling. Crew were rolling, daniel. Daniel roher ok, were going, guys . Both yeah. Daniel roher ok, so alexei, i want to talk about something that we sort of touched on this morning. And you might hate this, but i really want you to think about it. If you are killed, if this does happen, what message do you leave behind to the russian people . Alexei navalny oh, come on, daniel. No, no way. Its like youre making a movie for the case of my death. Like, again, im ready to answer your question, but please let it be in another movie, movie number two. Lets make a thriller out of this movie. And in this case i would be killed, lets make a boring movie of memory. [suspenseful music] [speaking russian] reporter Alexei Navalny is stepping back into another showdown with the kremlin. Reporter what to do with navalny presents a conundrum for the kremlin let him go and risk looking weak, or lock him up knowing it could turn him into a political martyr. Reporter mr. Navalny, arent you afraid
we knew that the poison was novichok. and novichok, we had proven in the previous investigation, is only manufactured in this facility called the signal institute. the signal institute in moscow works under the guise of a r&d center that develops advanced form of sports nutrition drinks. that s the legend. yet they employ for this work 12 scientists whose only experience and background is in chemical weapons. our hypothesis, this is the entity that actually provides the poison for the killers who travel around the world poisoning people with novichok. so what we did is we bought from the russian black market the phone records for the head of the signal institute. we looked at numbers that only appear just before the poisoning of navalny. and those were suspicious. but once we have a suspicious
we knew that the poison was novichok. and novichok, we had proven in the previous investigation, is only manufactured in this facility called the signal institute. the signal institute in moscow works under the guise of a r&d center that develops advanced form of sports nutrition drinks. that s the legend. yet they employ for this work 12 scientists whose only experience and background is in chemical weapons. our hypothesis, this is the entity that actually provides the poison for the killers who travel around the world poisoning people with novichok. so what we did is we bought from the russian black market the phone records for the head of the signal institute. we looked at numbers that only appear just before the poisoning of navalny. and those were suspicious.
the russian media didn t find anything, and german investigators didn t have the jurisdiction, so we realized there s nobody was going to actually actively investigate this. unless we jump into this. we knew that the poison was novichok, and novichok we had proven in the previous investigation is only manufactured in this facility called the signal institute. the signal institute in moscow works under the guise of a r & d center that develops advanced form of sports, nutrition drinks. that s the legend, and yet they employ for this work 12 scientists whose only experience and background is in chemical weapons. our hypothesis, this is the entity that actually provides the poison for the killers which travel around the world
poisoning people with novichok. so what we did is we bought from the russian black market. the phone records for the head of the signal institute. we looked at numbers that only appear just before the poisoning of navalny, and those were suspicious, but once we have a suspicious number, you go through a number of russian apps that allow you to see how that phone number is listed in other people s phone books, so, for example, i put in my number, and it would show up as kristol the journalist from bellingcat because somebody would have put my name into their phone book and that description would be shared. first number i showed up alexei, doctor from fsb. that was interesting, doctor from fsb, alexei. couldn t place a real person behind this name and looked to see if that number shows up in a