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Transcripts for CNN SOTU Continuing Coverage 20220302 06:15:00

said, not only entered a wall of strength in the ukrainian people. it s getting ready to hit a wall of concrete in these cities. in urban warfare, it may be the biggest military, but the russian military is not the best military. even for the best military, if you can pull them into urban terrain, it s a living nightmare for them. we know what s going to happen. i actually think it s ironic based on historical studies that we think that the russians have a massive force compared to the ukrainian force. in urban fights, you need five times the amount of troops against one defender. so if you count the numbers of fighters, even if you don t count the civilians with kyiv, what putin s bringing is not enough. even if you count the entire force that he s put into ukraine, 190,000 troops, the u.s. coalition into the invasion of iraq, which i was a part of. i jumped into northern iraq and was part of the invasion and

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Transcripts for CNN SOTU Continuing Coverage 20220302 06:10:00

just tell the russians we re coming and send the planes. similarly, we could do the same at sea, sending u.s. navy ships, cargo ships into odesa with humanitarian aid. bes so these types of steps should be taken. you know, one thing that president biden really wanted to convey in his speech, it seemed, was the unity between america and nato countries, other nato countries, the 29 others. you really have seen europe rally behind ukraine, even traditionally neutral switzerland. germany made a big turnaround. are you surprised by how forceful the response has been against russia? this is an amazing, even an historic turn in europe. basically germany had been weak

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20220304 22:10:00

and this was probably the most dramatic gathering and in ukrainian parliament history. however, it was really beautiful and really touching. kira, tell me what the sense is on the ground where there s fighting in the southern part of your country. are ukrainian soldiers coming face-to-face, or are the russians firing from tanks? can you describe what the war is like where the russians have already invaded? let me tell you about the south and tell you about kyiv. it s a little bit different but still the same. so, in kyiv, where i m right now, so, every evening starts with the shelling, so they re throwing missiles at the city, so you hear the siren, you go downstairs, and you hide. and right after the siren and right after the shelling, the russian troops are trying to get in.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20220304 22:25:00

sign that his terrible economy and dictatorship is not the only way to do things in that part of the world. and so yeah, he fears his own people, absolutely, all dictators do. tim, let me bring you into this and ask you just for your assessment of where things are heading. it s obviously late night in kyiv. we don t have our map up. i ll see if we can pull a picture up. but as incompetent and i think rick is describing the invasion as incompetent, for days now, as it s been and as it s looked with that barely moving convoy, there are casualties now, civilian casualties. there are cities burning. in eight days, it has gone from, you know, exquisite european cities in a beautiful country to a war zone. what is your sense of where we re heading? well, it s becoming much more brutal than we ever thought we would see and it s only going to get worse, i m afraid. we see the frustration.

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Transcripts for CNN SOTU Continuing Coverage 20220302 05:02:00

to the president s speech as well. cnn s jim sciutto is live for us in lviv. russia expert jill dougherty is in moscow. phil mattingly is in washington and/or ren lieberman is at the pentagon for us. liszt let s begin with tim sciutto in lviv. russia has shifted to an aggressive bombing campaign. civilians are dying. kyiv is bracing for a more major assault. what is the latest? i m told by u.s. officials the latest u.s. intelligence assessment is as russia s invasion plan has hit obstacles, including strong resistance from the ukrainian military, that it will use heavier firepower, more indiscriminate firepower as well. and that includes targeting civilian areas, sometimes deliberately. that s the view of the u.s. military at this point. we ve seen evidence of that. the video that pamela was just

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