got kicked out of the group, which is a remarkable statement in and of itself. we talked about this because they are the ones who can really hold things in limbo in the house. just two weeks ago a handful of them decided to essentially paralyze the house for about a week because they did not get their say on the way things should go moving forward on spending. as a result, kevin mccarthy had to cut a deal and agree to move forward on spending levels to fund the government in a lower level than what he agreed on in the debt limit deal that could lead to a shutdown fight in the fall. these members and what they decide to do in their tactics have huge implications in congress. you see this, you and i covered congress together, you ve seen this in the past, too, right. there are conservative leaders sometimes aside, they want to actually have the controls and to get things done. we saw it with jeb hensarling the head of the republican study committee and with mike pence who went from the
to cut a deal. now, he got behind this deal because of his belief that the defense funding in particular was what he wanted, what he had been pushed for, in the $45 billion in aid to ukraine, a big priority of mitch mcconnell s. kevin mccarthy is trying to become the next speaker of the house. he is a republican majority incoming january 3rd. ten days away. he did not want this deal to be cut now. he wanted to wait until the new congress, believing republicans would have a stronger hand to negotiate a deal. but mcconnell and senate republicans disagree. some senate republicans were concerned that if they punted to the next congress where mccarthy would have a narrow republican majority, they would have a difficult time passing a bill, probably couldn t even get a bill out of the house, some were concerned could potentially lead to a shutdown fight in the new congress. they did not want that. essentially republican leaders jammed republican leaders in the house, and they pushed this bil
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growing frustration and increasing uncertaintyoff over looming senate trial. in the midst of all of that, the president is facing two major decisions. first, who should serve on his defense team and, second, what strategy should they employ. our political analyst and white house reporter from the post and also a national correspondent for time is joining us. welcome. hi, martin. good to be here. the president spent a lot of time, much of his vacation actually, attacking house speaker nancy pelosi and the whistleblower on twitter. so what kind of insight does that give you to his frame of mind? well, he is a little bit preoccupied. this is a pattern that we ve seen before. in fact i believe that it was exactly a year ago at this time that the president was at loose ends at mar-a-lago and tweeting obsessively about the shutdown
should be used for something else. he says the $7 billion in the pentagon budget for the wall should go to defense. where do your colleagues stand on this issue? look, so just to be clear on the numbers, because i think there is a lot of misreporting out there. $3.6 billion is backfilling what we re using now. the rest this $5 billion number we just had the shutdown fight over is not a made-up number. not just something coming from the white house. that s from customs and border patrol. the president actually moved on his rhetoric. these are steel slats in strategic areas in between our ports of entry where we need some type of barrier. sandra, where i am as border security is part of national security. terrorist groups have proven in the past to work with mexican drug gangs, smugglers and others. a pipeline that can move people and drugs, can move weapons of mass destruction, can move arms and we need to shut that down.