rebalance and expand this road to supreme court? bus, when donald trump looks and amir, does he see richard nixon staring back at him? how one disgraced ex president pave the way for the latest disgraced ex president. msnbc exclusive tonight, the former prime minister of pakistan joins me to discuss human rights and democracy in his country and the case against him. why we in america should all care. good evening, i m mehdi hasan. perhaps the two most important weapons in american politics right now are not 435 and 500, the number of house members in congress. or 40 and 44, the pulling the embers for joe biden and donald trump respectively in the latest survey. but six and three, that is the ideological division on the highest court in the land. six conservative justices versus three liberal justices. it is how we all powell fruit supreme court cans to vote on a lot of the biggest issues that come before them. six against three, before we get those cases tonight, cases that h
readout on the florida governor s standing in the 2024 race and the uphill fight to catch donald trump. new reporting this hour on why he said what he said. plus, mike pence is doing it today, tim scott is doing it, so is ron desantis and francis suarez, but donald trump is not. most are walking in parades, but not the former president. he s giving more evidence he s running a very different kind of campaign. no labels says they want to give voters a third-party alternative, but some critics wonder if what they really want is to deny joe biden the presidency. i m dana bash, let s go behind the headlines and inside politics. we start today with that old saying, honesty is the best policy. at first blush, that might seem like what an operative for the ron desantis super pac is doing, stating the obvious, that things in the desantis campaign are not going so well. listen to steve cortes and his assessment of how his candidate is doing. look, right now in national polling
the president again. in 30 minutes, he ll speak from the roosevelt room, explaining the white house s next steps because a lot could change with a ruling that sided with a web designer opposed to same-sex marriage. and a lot will change now that the president cannot constitutionally cancel student debt. joining me now nbc news correspondent julia ainsley who s outside of the supreme court for us, and nbc news white house correspondent mike memoli. noah pransky is here with us as well, and cnbc washington correspondent, emily wilkins. thank you very much for being here, everybody. so 6-3 ruling, two more 6-3 rulings, i should say. student debt. you re right, katy, if somebody was going to sum up this supreme court right now, the name of the book might be 6-3 because we re seeing so many opinions fall along those lines. today we saw two more, the first coming in, a case having to do with a web designer in colorado who says that she does have gay clients but didn t want to be
that i hope that is the case because i think a lot of people have been looking at that and seeing it as opening the floodgates to possible discrimination against lgbtq members for whatever reason, you know, services, or free speech. but at the end of the day, it has created the lgbtq community or made them feel like second class citizens in this country. absolutely. i was also, you know, glad to hear it presented in that way that perhaps, it s a lot more -limited, and it can be interpreted by other courts as well in a lot more limiting way. so, let s hope let s hope, and let s wait and see. it s great to see you, as always, my friend. enjoy the rest of your evening off. and good evening to you. welcome to ayman. tonight, it ain t over. the classified documents grand jury is still hearing evidence in the case against donald trump. are more indictments in the works? plus, fox settling warrants again. new details on the 12 million dollar payout a former tucker carlson prod
hour of chris jansing reports. i m alex witt. ahead for us, kevin spacey on trial. the oscar award winning actor appears in court on multiple count of sexual assault. we re live in london. plus, a scathing report in the wake of jeffrey epstein s death. the d.a. blasts prisoner workers for multiple failures. a russian missile strike targets a crowded ukrainian restaurant right at dinner time. also, trump s growing legal woes, word that his former lawyer, rudy giuliani, met with the special counsel s office. our nbc news reporters are following all the latest developments. we will begin with nbc s vaughn hillyard who s following the latest trump legal troubles. what can you tell us about rudy giuliani and the legal team. rudy giuliani is a lynch pin in so many of what is a large web around january 6th and the special counsel s investigation. at this point in time, we know that in fulton county in the district attorney s investigation there, he has already been togethe