though there is that historical standard it has never been tested. it has never been brought before any court, obviously, it ultimately would end up getting to the supreme court because no justice department tried to diet a sitting president. it was an open question whether or not mueller would actually be the first to challenge it. if he felt he had enough incriminating evidence against the president that he would do that. we don t know the answer to that question whether he has incriminating evidence. but at least according to rudy giuliani, the mueller team has told him you know, we re going to adhere to the press den and not going to going are go forward in any way shape or form with an indictment if it comes to that. but to be clear this is what rudy giuliani said. exactly. was heard by someone on the mueller team not mueller himself, correct. he wasn t clear as to whether it was mueller himself or not. butway we also know from gloria borger talked to another source
confirming some remains of the missing sailors have been found after the collision. this crash prompting a one-day operational pause for all ships based in the region. what are you learning? reporter: we just returned from a press conference with the commander of the u.s. pacific fleet in which he told us about the discover dwri of those remains. he wasn t clear in terms of exactly how many of the ten missing u.s. sailors have been recovered but what he did tell us is that divers making their way into the damaged portion of that ship, into sealed compartments that were sealed during the flooding that took place after of the accident early monday morning, that s where they found some remains. he also told us the malaysian navy found a body out in the waters where that accident happened and that is link to a body being transferred back to
committee. they may have had a document that they either left or showed to the trump team. the trump team didn t think very much of this information, didn t think it was significant. do we know what was in this document? we have an idea that it had to do with allegations about a hedge fund manager pouring money into the democratic national committee. it s not even clear the allegations were these were legal contributions. it doesn t seem to have amounted to much, alex. interestingly, current and former intelligence officials say don t focus on the meeting. that s not the issue. the interesting thing is the russian government in these e-mails offered to help the trump campaign and the trump campaign essentially took them up on the offer by having the meeting. but i still want to ask about this document. do we know if it was handed to donald trump jr. or any mem other of the trump team who was there? do we know if they kept it? accounts differ on that. veselnitskaya told nbc news
is that these people one after the other they move the goalpost. they say, you know, the that it s one thing and then the next thing down the line, you know, that it s something else. i think that that s what s happening here. and, you know, frankly people on the hill right now the ones you can imagine that they re running away from answering russian questions and they d prefer to answer health care questions. that s when you know you re in trouble. wow. when you prefer health care questions you have a problem. let me push back. i don t think that was a wow. he maybe didn t know, he wasn t clear. i would be very skeptical that pence was involved in whatever was going on with the trumps. trump and pence are not particularly close. this is such an unusual event, the idea that you were colluding with an adversary power you re going to keep that close knit. and maybe he was hedging
last night. he talked about it as you see. reporter: he wasn t clear. he put it in quotes, very broad. reporter: so was it phone tapping? no, it was sveillance and i think we ve covered this ten times. now the controversy has triggered what could be considered an international incident. the white house having to explain to british officials that spicer was simply pointing to public reports, not endorsing any specific story or the information in it. after the british spy agency in a rare public statement vehemently denied claims, calling them nonsense, all this as the president s top diplomat secretary of state rex tillerson is overseas and issuing a stark warning that military action against north korea is on the table. we re covering all the big headlines. andrea is in south korea covering secretary tillerson, here in washington nbc white house correspondent hallie jackson, the guardian political supporter sabrina