find an area where he is comfortable to testify about what he knows. ryan nobles, cnn, capitol hill. meanwhile there trump allies have tried to discredit cassidy hutchinson as a reliable witness and kevin mccarthy is calling her testimony hearsay, focusing on her secondhand account of how trump lunged at the steering wheel of his limo when he was told that he couldn t go to the capitol. the secret service is refuting this claim but hutchinson stands by her testimony. she went under oath and stands by her testimony, which by the way wasn t what happened but what she was told. and we can if there is a dispute, we can put other people under oath. but the main point is this, no one is disputing that the then president wanted to go to the capitol to be with the rioters. that is a pretty disturbing fact. and liz cheney, a republican,
to barbara, the legal implications for all of the challenges to aspects of her testimony it was the most dra dramatic, thinking about the president grabbing the steering wheel, but legally and politically, there was no challenge to the fact that he knew they were armed, he encourage them to come. he wanted to go with them. he was furious he couldn t go with them and that he had to return to the security of the white house. he encouraged the insurrection. barbara? i agree with you. i think this is the tail that wags the dog. it s an irrelevant detail whether he did or didn t grab the steering wheel. she repeated a story she was told. it s a story she heard someone else tell. if you want to get to the truth,
that information. under oath, about what they saw, what they said. and we would welcome any testimony by relevant parties. what do you think is the single most important piece of evidence, that the committee received today, in this testimony? i really do think it was the president basically saying, if these people are armed. he s okay with that. he felt the mob was not there for him. those were his people. and his response was take away the magnetometers. it was made clear to the president that it s not that there was a long line of the metal detector, is that people wouldn t go through it, because they had weapons. and people that had gone through, it did have to give up weapons. and he was okay with that. and he still wanted that armed mob to march with him to the capitol. he was indignant when he couldn t go to the capitol, he was furious. and to me you know when we are looking at what is the intent of the president. what is the knowledge of the president, about the danger of th
having anyone willing to come in, that has relevant information, to come and share that information. under oath, about what they saw, what they said. and we would welcome any testimony by relevant parties. what do you think is the single most important piece of evidence, that the committee received today, in this testimony? i really do think it was the president basically saying, if these people are armed, the he s okay with that. he felt the mob was not there for him. those were his people. and his response was take away the magnetometers. it was made clear to the president that it s not that there was a long line of the metal detector, is that people wouldn t go through it, because they had weapons. and people that had gone through, it did have to give up weapons. and he was okay with that. and he still wanted that armed mob to march with him to the capitol. he was indignant when he couldn t go to the capitol, he was furious.
seeing some pushback but not the key points that the white house knew things could turn ugly and the committee is standing by the testimony. what do we know this morning? reporter: that s the central focus. the fact that as some of the details are disputed what happened in the perspective of the white house of pressing forward that central point remains undisputed but this morning what we are seeing is he said/she said. the secret service pushing back anonymously on the claims with the form ere president in the beast. so stunning for us listening the fact that the former president allegedly grabbing at the steering wheel and lunged at the chief of security there for the secret service in the beast when they told him he couldn t go to the capitol. that s something that the secret service is disputing anonymously. that cassidy hutchinson said on