you think happens next? yeah. i mean, i think that he has made his character very clear that he s been convicted now with 34 counts, felony counts, and he s his character is clear here. i don t think it s appropriate to so i did speak like that. i don t think he s a person who is going to have revenge. he has said that he s been very clear about what his intentions are and how he s going to use his justice system. but to share michael s point, i think that s great, that they ve raised all this money. where s this money going? is that going to his legal fees or is that going to build an operation? and i think that the biden campaign, it s been really diligent and building out their operation to get those voters who actually don t agree with this and actually won t give him a second look now and this is going to be won on the margins. and i think that the biden campaign is doing what they need to be doing to reach those voters in these five or six battleground states. so he can be out th
anyway? it s not all over. he can t pardon himself. they can t dismiss it in any way because it s state, not federal, but there s no way that a president of the united states is going to be made to serve any sort of sentence. so if he wins whenever the appeals or done any actually has to serve whatever sentence is imposed even if it s probation he would certainly do in federal court and they would say that it has to be stayed until after his term because the president is so busy. i mean, for all the same reasons, we see that the office of legal counsel has said you can t try a president while their president, he would not be required to serve any sentence while he s actually serving sure. michael some republicans, while many are seem to be echoing donald trump s rhetoric. i mean, this weekend, republican senator marco rubio, who as you well know for a long time, was considered sort of the next generation of rational republicans he tweeted fight
you actually i actually want to i think we have some time left. i want to go to this tweet for you, sure. michael because i want to circle back. you tweeted this, so several former associates who still have high-level positions within republican politics you all agree that the gop should seriously think about 2024 and will be the standard bearer for the republican party going forward after today s testimony. this is where i want to end. i want you to elaborate on this one, share michael, and i want the rest of the panel to leeway, and because this is connected to liz cheney. she has been the most visible republican here. to hold the president accountable. they think the stuff is crazy. in every single person, and you know, this we have been spoken about there s not a single person in politics, in the bubble, if you, will on capitol hill, that will not tell you that people are saying in background, they want the stuff to be over. they want to move on. they re just not saying i
should stumble tomorrow night, it s not necessarily to jeb s advantage. it s probably to ben carson s advantage. it s probably to carly fiorina s advantage because there are several debates playing out on that stage tomorrow night. not just one debate. and in the end, i believe there will be an establishment candidate. and it might be jeb, or it might be kasich or it might be chris christie, and there will be one of the mavericks. a ben carson, a carly, or a donald trump. and that s the way this thing s is. jeffrey? i actually used to share michael s opinion it was going to be one of each. now i m not so sure. you think it might be a dr. carson and a trump? correct. correct. i think all the passion is right there. and these other folks, and i think in that same cbs poll, 37% had decided and there was 60%, something like that, i mean, a good percentage that hadn t decided but i have this feeling that they re going to be gravitating to one of the other three. we ve seen this ki