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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Live With Craig Melvin 20191212 16:14:00

he didn t care about the russian war on the people of ukraine. he didn t care about corruption. they invite us to believe that donald trump is an anti corruption crusader who was shaking down president zelensky about corruption when he doesn t raise any corruption on that call except for what he believed was going on with the bidens, except that he reduced anti corruption funding for ukraine, except he doesn t raise it anywhere else that we can find. what do you know? you pick up the new york times yesterday. president trump had to pay $2 million to charities because he rippedau off his own charity fo millions of fdollars. this is the anti corruption crusader they want us to believe in. the guy who had to pay $25 million to students at the phony trump university which the attorney general of new york called a classic bait and switch operation. this is thed guy they want us believe was shaking down the

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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Live With Craig Melvin 20191212 16:18:00

a democratic senator was quoted, never in my view had a democratic been led by such a dangerous head of state, a reckless and arrogant president. that was senator robert byrd fromat west virginia describing george w. bush. ronald reagan was accused of abuse of power for pushing a growth-based economic agenda. for committing troops to lebanon or turning back the sand nistas in nicaragunicaragua. clinton was accused of abuse for an asia fund-raising, four dozen donors were arrested. aides getting sweetheart opponents, useg of the fbi to g up dirt on political employees, waco and a swedish slush fund. george w. bushsh was accused of abuse of power for domestic spying and energy task force controversy, presidential records act, steel tariffs, the iraq war and nsa overreach.

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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Live With Craig Melvin 20191212 16:23:00

it was about having an investigation announced on cnn and then you ll get the military aid. sondland told and warsaw, one of the aides to president zelensky, you ve got to announce the investigation. it was a strong arm. they did it. and where do we get these people in thee loop to testify? they ve been asked to testify. the presidentsk says no, he won let them testify because he knows fythat, if they tell the truth, t it will hurt his case because they know that they held up the military aid. president zelensky has no choice. he needs america to protect himself from the big bear, russia. they say he hasn t said that he felt pressured. a, he s an actor and, b, he s a politician and he depends on us. he has no choice.

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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Live With Craig Melvin 20191212 16:25:00

that s the most impeachable crime you can be charged with. they forget their witness, mr. turley said what the president did was wrong. he didn t come in and give a clean bill of health to the president. he said you need some more information, you need some more proof. but you can t nme get the proof because the president won t allow his men to testify. one of them is writing a book, one of them is still in an interim job, the other is running for senator. that can t do it. the proof is there. this is the most abusive act we can a imagine, trying to influee our elections with foreign interference. that takes power away from the american people, and that would end our country as we know it, a democracy, a shining city on the hill, a beacon of hope to people around the world who followed our revolution by changing their governments to giving people the power and not kings. this is a way to revert back to a king, a man who thinks he can do whatever he wants, article 2

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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Live With Craig Melvin 20191212 16:35:00

impeachment. it has no basis in fact or in evidence, but rather is deeply rooted in personal opinion and perception. mr. turley also explained implications of this occurrence. we have never impeached a president solely or largely on a non-criminal abuse of power allegation. there is good reason for that unbroken record. abuses of power tend to be less defined ando more debatable th some of the crimes already mentioned. he went one dy to say the princ problem with proving an abuse of power theory is the lack of direct evidence due to the failure to compel key witnesses to testify or production of key documents. let s talk about the direct evidence they have. there is none. the only person that would have firsthand knowledge of the quid pro e quo, bribery, extortion o whatever buzzwords democrats want to trot out next is president zelensky who has denied any agreement or pressure. here in lies the problem. the facts don t support your

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