announced that they were gonna run a third party candidate in a david brooks column in september of 2022. we became quite alarmed by that for all the reasons you ve been talking about on the show. which is that in a head to head race, or race where they fight third party candidates we believe joe biden wins. he beat storm ultra. but if there s a third party that is reportedly moderate it is incredibly dangerous and all of the experts, including experts of nbc have looked at this, including two things. one, is there s absolutely no way a third party candidate can win the election but there is every possibility that they could hand the election to trump. and the reason that we re sending this no doubt, to folks on wall street, and other business communities they are the ones funding this right now. it s not some grassroots operation, with rosboro, back in 1992. this is a concoction. and it s been funded by very wealthy people and we are trying to talk to those people and make sure they u
[ cheers and applause ] clause 8 forbids the president from taking any kind of money whatsoever from foreign governments. what s the consequence? here s the problem. they ve sandbagged us for seven years. this is the culmination of seven years of work by my late colleague elijah cummings. we had to go all the way to the supreme court to finally get information in september of 2022, but the moment that chairman comer became chairman of the oversight committee, he told trump s lawyers to say don t worry about it, you don t have to turn over any more information to the committee, which is why we just have this
pete: joe and his team cannot hold the kind of meeting you held, because they don t have any a compliments to stand up, to point to. you look at the trump campaign, an ad they just released yesterday or today, which points to the differences between now and 3.5 years ago on the economy, the border, quality-of-life issues, crime. they will continue to do that, because it will be a narrative on if your life is better off now than it was four years ago. joe can t do any of that. the only thing that surprises me about this is that they are starting this early. the blood red speech you are talking about was september of 2022. it was kind of the panic button of the midterms and they think it worked. now, we are going to endure this for an entire year. to be clear, it is not just donald trump: it s the people that support him. so far, this backlash has meant more support for trump in the primaries. we will see how this cuts into general election. this will get dark and dangerous
governmental institutions so unanimously found no evidence of significant fraud is telling. furthermore, i have talked to many republicans at all levels of government and not one has ever presented convincing evidence that the 2020 election was stolen. i think many have tried, and i don t think republican politicians actually think the election was stolen. you went from there and 11 months later your views have changed on january 6th. again, this book was written september of 2022. chuck, i m ready to address that, if you re interested. yeah. reading exactly that chapter in the book i drew a sharp distinction between what i did see in the interference of the election that mattered which was interference by big tech. i m data driven. there s hard data showing that many voters, many independent result enough to influence the outcome of the election if they had been exposed about the hunter biden laptop story. by contrast i have also been clear, i have not yet seen
it s not like they are going to roll over on it either if somebody does go to the convention and say, they can t do this. they will be prepared in his uncharted and fascinating and also scared for a party that hasn t won the national popular vote since 2004. as we watch this play out, the former president of the united states walking to the courthouse and i wanna as the two lawyers on this question of election interference. when jack smith brought his election interference case, it was a narrow set of charges against donald trump and the people around him talk about done on purpose. done on purpose to keep it clean and keep it simple and pushing aside things that maybe you think you could prosecute but you want a clear case. they ve decided to use racketeering laws of 18 or 19 defendants here. is that a harder case in your view to prove to a jury or does the big group somehow make it easier because you are doing conspiracy, not all specifics. i think the thing with the 19 different