breaking right now on andrea mitchell reports we re watching seminole county court where george zimmerman is expected so make his first court appearance at any moment. zimmerman was charged with second-degree murder last night in the death of trayvon martin. joining me now, our panel, nbc s ron allen live in sanford, florida, joanne reed, msnbc contributor and pete williams, nbc s justice correspondent here in washington. pete first to you. let s talk about the documents, florida law, and what to expect at this first appearance. that s what it s called, under florida law it s called a first appearance. he ll come in, be formally advised of the charges. he s not required to say anything. he doesn t enter a plea but his lawyer can ask for bail. in fact, we expect his lawyer to do so. then the judge will consider whether to grant him bail based on a number of factors.