and participation in hong kong. so during that period of time, there were no change in our political system. the participation in our legislative body is still diverse. 0ur rule of law is intact. so the accusations about the so called deteriorating situation is simply unfound. and also what s interesting is another one of their seminar s objectives, according to them, is for delegates to share knowledge and good practice with other legislatures. if the cpa indeed thinks that the situation has got so bad, like, in hong kong, why don t they take this opportunity to learn more through our participation? if they find it, like, you know, not good, then they can start criticising them. western politicians, well, they have always stressed the importance of listening to the people of hong kong. well, being a directly elected official myself, i have received north of 60,000 votes in our last election. even if i cannot represent everyone in hong kong, i can at least represent a good