robert costa, it s not beyond our capacity to imagine hume nae nature as the guy who said he would take a bullet for mr. trump. my point is they re both plausible. what does your reporting suggest in terms of whether cohen was under skrut r scrutiny for lying? is congress looking at it from that standpoint or is congress looking at it from the framework of trying to understand if pardons were dangled? let s say for the period of time, may, june, july, the summer, keen was intense legal scrutiny. it was expected he could see his home and office raided. that was a time of pressure for him personally and legally so that s when these conversations happened. but lawyers are very careful often in how they talk about pardons. it would be clear mr. sekulow or mr. giuliani, the trump lawyers, would know any kind of explicit talk of pardons would put them in legal jeopardy even if they were talking in the confines of what s called the joint defense
that we re hearing that mueller is about to wrap up his show, but you know, wrapping up, a lot can happen in the last two minutes of a football game. so maybe that s where we are. and did this sort of set off alarm bells for you when you heard about this? cambridge analytica always sets off red alerts and alarm bells for me. kendis, the bigger picture, idea, about this is how little we know about the mueller investigation. how little we know. this money han has subpoenas an his work going on. what happened last summer? my point. now he s putting the pieces of the puzzle together. 97% you hear the mueller investigation is wrapping up, that s rudy giuliani or sekulow, that s trump s alleged legal team. those guys spend 95% always wrapping up stories, coming out
people looking at a world of where even a reelected donald trump is not going to be president forever. katty, let me read you more from this article. twice this month trump vented about endless investigation, one discussion occurred in early august during the trial of paul manafort. an oug 1st, the second day of the trial, trump was tweeting about it and saying, of course as we remember in public, jeff sessions is terrible and should stop the rigged witch hunt. it goes on, katty to say to those tweets were not bluster but rather reflected a private effort to gin up support for removing sessions and it was only giuliani and sekulow that talked him out of it for now, katty. what s interesting is that he may be having success, donald trump, in terms of the republican senators. the report is quoting three senators on the record, blunt, shelby and corker, all seeming to suggest we may not like it, but as corker wonderfully puts
president trump responding furiously to former cia director john brennan s threat to take legal action after the security clearance was revoked. president trump tweeting, quote, i hope john brennan brings a lawsuit. it will then be very easy to get the records, texts and e-mails to show the poor job he did and how he was involved with the mueller rigged witch hunt. he won t sue. and rudy giuliani egged him on tweeting, to john brennan, president trump granted the request. sekulow and me, to handle your case after threatening it if you don t like it just like obama s red lines. come on, john. you are not a blowhard? brennan was backed up by former 75 officials in a new letter to the president also objecting to brennan being fired.
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