this. with the white house, why was this guy in there 157 times. and the fbi has the power to find that out. so it looks bad. is there anything else you would like to add to that? not only looks bad. you had not just republicans and conservatives, but democrats as well condemning him. he is the president, the attorney general, and then everybody found out, guess what? they re always going to say that. lois lerner lied when she gave her first statement. that s why she is not talking. what i m wondering, bill, if they are not getting any cooperation because everybody at the irs and maybe some the white house officials i m not going to testify if you want to prosecute me, try. and didn t realize how far it went. bill: the fbi is not going to tell you jordan seq. could you sekulow.
this. with the white house, why was this guy in there 157 times. and the fbi has the power to find that out. so it looks bad. is there anything else you would like to add to that? not only looks bad. you had not just republicans and conservatives, but democrats as well condemning him. he is the president, the attorney general, and then everybody found out, guess what? they re always going to say that. lois lerner lied when she gave her first statement. that s why she is not talking. what i m wondering, bill, if they are not getting any cooperation because everybody at the irs and maybe some the white house officials i m not going to testify if you want to prosecute me, try. and didn t realize how far it went. bill: the fbi is not going to tell you jordan seq. could you sekulow. certainly your clients
testify about her agency s targeting of conservative groups. it was her group that was doing it, but she took the fifth. yesterday, lois lerner, the woman at the center of this scandal went before congress, made an opening statement, and then attempted to assert her fifth amendment rights. in her opening statement she said she did nothing wrong, she did nothing illegal. she went on from there. well, at the time trey gowdy a former federal prosecutor said you can t do that ms. lerner, it s not how it works. either you clam up entirely or you start talking and you started talking. well, now the committee chairman darrell issa says trey gowdy was right and that lois lerner waived her right not to testify. coming up in moments, jay seq. could you low will join us now sekulow will join us now. he had clients coming to him tell them they felt they were being targeted by the irs. the irs denied it he knew
seq. could you low seq. low used to work for the sekulow used to work there. it s pretty bold that you didn t. well, i feel responsible to our members there is no way. they don t need that information for one thing. i was not going to it give that if we had to not get our status that s fine. i wasn t about to do that. you are pretty new into politics. you are a movement here the irs. the internal revenue service of the united states government is singling you out and pressing to you give information. it was offensive to me. when someone asks for every speech that has ever been given i felt very offended especially because i love this country. all i m trying to do is educate people. that s what our organization does. we speak about the
jordan sekulow and he s a sekulow is in jay sekulow, but we love having jordan, too, dia-opposing that s not a word. diametrically opposing. megyn: thank you. now, we have the 7th circuit which tends to be a little more liberal than the 10th circuit, right? and the 2nd circuit says you to have right to conceal carry and the 10th circuit in in, that rose out of colorado says, no you don t. let me start with you, julian, this is likely to go to the supreme court and what is likely to happen. i think it s likely to go to the supreme court. and the 7th says it s right to defense outside the home not necessarily conceal carry. and the 10th circuit is much more in line what the supreme court court said in the heller case nthat case the second amendment is a limited