unquote. joining us now, anne applebaum, staff writer at the atlantic, the author of many important books, including twilight of democracy: the seductive lure of authoritarianism. and, thank you for joining us tonight. you and i have talked for the last month. i was in hungary a few weeks ago, and i relocated to poland. we drove, and it s a long drive. we stopped halfway to spend the night. and it was kind of a place you know in poland. in the morning mike when i got up, we drove 20 miles east to auschwitz and broken how, because it seems pointing to understand that we got these slogans about never forget, and yet we forget. this is not the holocaust, obviously. but your references to the idea that nato was formed and these alliances were formed under the idea that we shall never forget, it does start to ring a little bit hollow after seeing what we are seeing last month. yes, of course. it didn t start here. our failure to react to mass
plan took shape in front of our eyes, right along the european union s eastern border. other autocracies watched to see what we would do about it, for russia is not the only nation in the world of its its neighbors territory, that seeks to destroy entire populations, that has no qualms about the use of mass violence. there is no natural liberal world order, and there are no rules without someone to enforce them. unless democracies defend themselves together, the forces of autocracy will destroy them. unquote. joining us now, anne applebaum, staff writer at the atlantic, the author of many important books, including twilight of democracy: the seductive lure of authoritarianism. and, thank you for joining us tonight. you and i have talked for the last month. i was in hungary a few weeks ago, and i relocated to poland. we drove, and it s a long drive. we stopped halfway to spend the night. and it was kind of a place you know in poland.
Journalist Anne Applebaum has been covering the war in Ukraine for The Atlantic. "I don't think that we will ever again smugly assume that borders in Europe can't be changed by force," she says.
Journalist Anne Applebaum has been covering the war in Ukraine for The Atlantic. "I don't think that we will ever again smugly assume that borders in Europe can't be changed by force," she says.
Journalist Anne Applebaum has been covering the war in Ukraine for The Atlantic. "I don't think that we will ever again smugly assume that borders in Europe can't be changed by force," she says.