essence of russia s security demands. that is, you know, nato s presence or taking on of taking on of ukraine into nato. so, you know, the from the russian perspective, they feel that that message is sort of not being utterly rejected, that some semblance of it is being absorbed or understood. but the russian side is saying, look, president biden made it very clear that he wants for see a de-escalation of russian forces and if there isn t, there will be serious economic, military and financial sanctions. this is what the kremlin said, and putin they say responded that if that were the case, if that was to happen, then this would provide a serious rupture in relations between the two countries and this would be a mistake. it would be a generational mistake. chairman rodgers, it would be a generational mistake.
demands it s putting on the table and its ramping up troops. that he said, leads to a very dangerous situation. challenge is when you see these buildup combined with the rhetoric, combined with the threat of russia they have actually used force against neighbors before, georgia and ukraine, the capabilities, the rhetoric and the track record, of course, that sends a message that is a real risk for a new armed conflict in europe. reporter: the u.s. secretary of state antony blinken who was part of that meeting said that russia is creating a false narrative by saying it is u.s. forces, nato forces, that are a threat to russia close to russia s border. he said what russia is trying to do at the moment by taking the twin-track approach of talking to the united states, talking to nato separately, giving them separate security demands, he said that it in effort to divide
it s an extremely important gas project between germany and russia and one of the things that she flat-out said in the press conference, of course, if russia makes any further military moves, there will be consequences for the pipeline. the main thing they says germany will defend, the european values, even if it means massive economic consequences for germany. you can really see how germany is aligning itself with the united states, especially that tandem of the german foreign minister and secretary of state blinken as well. as far as lap rov, there has been threatening language. he says they expect answers from the united states very soon as far as security demands are concerned, and on the ground i have new developments as well. the russians are saying they re conducting sniper drills in their southern military district
thing as a minor incursion. nic robertson is live in moscow with the very latest. the reaction was swift and clear. what are leaders saying there? reporter: well, in russia, the kremlin i think is really trying to make up its mind and understand what president biden was meaning. there was some optimism from the kremlin spokesman, dmitry p peskov, saying there were some things in what president biden had said that gave them some small sense of optimism. but, you know, still a lot of questions remain, and that clear expectation and demand there is a written response to russia s demands, their security demands or proposals as they call them, that there must be this written response from the united states. but the kremlin spokesman also holding out the possibility of more interpresidential diplomacy saying that president putin would be ready to have a conversation with president biden, no indication of when, but that s what we re hearing again today as the kremlin tries to make up its mi
including eight children in philadelphia last week. and u.s. and russian diplomats have laid out the dramatically different positions. u.s. officials are openly skeptical of russia s desire to find compromises and russian officials are bristling at what they say is a lack of understanding for their security demands. joining me now is richard engel in eastern ukraine where he s just back from the frontlines with the ukrainian troops. richard, they met for seven hours today. let s take a deeper dive on these talks from the ukrainian perspective as well. we understand that ukraine is having side talks with russia itself because of concerns that the u.s. and the allies will not stand by them. reporter: so the talks so far are just beginning, and as you just mentioned, there are going to be a lot of discussions about