ahead for us at this hour, we re going to go live to perth in australia for details on the new pings detected just hours ago. detected in a different way. this time it was a search plane looking and listening for any trace of flight 370. how much of a difference does this make? those little things still get you.
and they want to make this point just because they think they heard this sound from one of their pingers down toings it doesn t mean that the plane or pinger is right there. it radiates so widely. it could be far, far away. so they will have to narrow down the search area these search teams to try to fine it. i appreciate the demonstration. i want to bring back david gallow. and former department department of transportation inspector. you believe these pings are from black boxes. is there too much evidence for it to be anything else? absolutely. without a question in my mind they are. especially since we ve gotten it from source we have. the china didn t seem very credible to me because of the equipment they were using and highly possible they were doing some testing on the pinger. i didn t give that a lot of credibility.
scratch pad? the scratch pad son lie enough to put in maybe your first and last name. 18 way points wouldn t fit in the scratch pad. reporter: the other thing i ll point out it s a long way this plane deviated. it to be with equivalent of going from new york to chicago. almost 800 miles out of the way by this course. and, miles, if it did, in fact, skirt indonesian airspace the whole idea it was trying find some place to land or it would nullify that whole concept. yes. that concept goes out the window. if you re in an emergency situation and not doing this, this is a deliberate act, forced by somebody or the crew itself was taking the action. i m skeptical about, first of all if you re trying avoid radar the reason we know about this route is they got it on radar. it wasn t very successful. the altitude we picked as 12,000. we don t know that s accurate. if you want to avoid radar you want to be down 100 feet or so
they don t know what it is without a transponder on it. i wonder if this was an effort to make it difficult for people to use cell phones by staying over water. that s an option as well. mary, how about you? you re skeptical about this flight path mostly because you don t think indonesia has the ability to say 100% the plane didn t cross its airspace. how so? that s right. i want goes back to the old saying how do you prove a negative. i did some research on the indonesian airspace and what was very interesting is indonesia in the indonesian press contrary to what the government says, the indonesian radar is very problematic. 70% of them don t function well. the military radar, according to some articles was so bad they only operate 12 out of 24 hours a day. one article said civilian radar is absolutely impossible to pick up a civilian plane. and they have a new process going where they are rebuilding
david, you had a general idea where the plane went down. you found debris, the pingers on the black boxes never worked. still took you months and months of searching over two years to find the wreckage, correct? took two years with all the mobilization and things like that to get back out there but all together on the water about ten weeks. actually two months of that, eight weeks was spent almost on a wild goose chase because of a bad model for retrodrifting. so drifting debris backwards took us to a bad place. you know, it s definitely doable. the team out there, phoenix international are superb at locating black box. so that s interesting, david. you re saying really on the time on the actual water was ten weeks to actually find the wreckage from the time you found the debris, not including all the bureaucratic time spent getting approvals, getting permission and the like. took a year to get out there