nine years later. it broke my heart but i had to fire her. i had to let her go. but this is why we need a very good e-verify system. these are real people. these are mothers and dads and kids and they have this fear, the fear that her housekeeper had. and, by the way, i don t even want to get into that story, i think it is a sorry tale there after working for nine years, she didn t even get her a lawyer, i could tell that you could be done. well there, you have it, joan. i want to you start with the politics of this. clearly governor brown, who wants to be governor again, is talking to the latino variety there, showing sympathy for the employee, not for the law not being enforced clearly in that case, whereas meg whitman talked about e-verify. she did take an upholding position saying she does want the system fixed so you can t be blamed if you hire somebody who is here illegally because you have a card that is biometrically verifiable no more fraudulent paper being thrown around.
post howa post howard fineman, also an msnbc analyst. we have been together a long time so we can cut through the stuff that isn t really true. yes. one thing i thought was interesting is that biden last night made it clear that he had a conversation with the president and he gave us sort of the conversation, gave us the rundown, i just told you a minute ago. i asked him he asked me are you with me, joe, i m with him, actually gave the wording of the whole thing. what s the importance of that? the importance of that is we were spending a lot of time here inside the beltway speculating it could be something else. this is traditional in any presidency, democrat or republican. and i thought the way biden handled it was very shrewd. he gave the whole encounter, okay, he didn t just give the bottom line but he didn t make that big of a deal of it and neither, frankly, did the new york times, which published the story, which i think from the biden point of view was good. you just w
party people, a lot of them is good people, every man for themselves basically, no more taxes, no more government, no more anything, no more safety net, no more healthcare for everybody, everybody out get out there make your buck, save it, screw the government, move on, right? yeah. these people, if they weren t every man for themselves down in that mine, they wouldn t have gotten out. they would have been killing each other after about two days. this is a story of how people can work together, the people who were down there for two months, the people who are above ground from all over the world using state-of-the-art equipment, not to get rid of the need for manpower but to save manpower in this case. this is just another example of how radical the republican party is becoming, do away with the minimum wage. you just talked about that. bad policy. it ll wreck the economy. if you didn t have government regulation, you wouldn t have clean water, you wouldn t have cars that were sa
president, the president said, joe, i have been hearing this buzz, let s put it to bed. i totally agree. perfect place to do it do it in pittsburgh, middle of times story, not a screaming headline that would get people suspicious. before we get to the heady part of the discussion, the president s mood after two years, i wonder about the value of those interviews, they are ready for themful they know you are come in give you a big head trip about they are doing. essaying or his people putting out the word in this big piece on sunday in the new york times, their biggest belief the guys going to run against him 2012 is going to be mike huckabee, the guy who works for fox much. right. mike huckabee, the former not the most consequential governor in the history of arkansas. mike huckabee. is there what are they doing setting him up as their well, what they also said and i thought peter baker s piece all the people that might run against him mitt romney. peter baker
the realities of the outside world according to chuck todd, some people have forgotten about this. we re cycling through the headlines in my hometown of pensacola, florida. it s a screaming headline of the news journal, government slipped on spill estimate. st. petersburg times. also oil estimates squelched. as nbc news political director, what is the impact in the swing state of florida of this misstep for the obama administration and democrats running this fall? it s not just florida. i would say overall. what it is, it only adds to the distrust in government right now. that s what it adds to. here are you getting the straight word from the government on various issues and on this case, here is a commission ironically, amential appointed commission saying, hey, you weren t getting the