are you suggesting we owe them a defense guarantee? i m not looking at montenegro i m looking at the full 29 countries. tucker: that s how bad decisions get made, one people to look at the statistics. how many times as the collective defense ever been triggered? tucker: once. once, and one was that? tucker: was after 9/11. world war i actually happened the fact is we are obligated to defend all of these countries, slovakia, albania, turkey what would happen if israel attacked turkey? that s not a crazy possibility, you could easily see a terror group backed by turkey, israel retaliates. suddenly we are obligated attack israel? is not every time anyone fires a shot, otherwise we would ve been an 18 wars in the last 15 years. tucker: could you imagine a scenario
denounced for treason. for asking the question we are accused of taking orders from vladimir putin. my former network did an entire segment suggesting americans somehow have a moral obligation to lay down their lives for montenegro. yet again raising serious doubts about whether he would honor article five of the nato charter if it came down to it. it s a cornerstone of the alliance, unarmed attack on one nation is an attack on all. this time the president questioned the united states if it should honor its agreement when it comes to the newest member, member, montenegro. tucker: the argument is becauseec they have about 20 noncombatants in afghanistan, we the u.s. have an internalrn obligation to spend american money and lives defending their borders. that is idiotic which is to say perfect for cable news. in real life a defense guarantee is not something you enter into
americans have a moral obligation to die to protect it, do you think we do? here s what people who have talked about nato expansion have said to. whenen you add montenegro, doest addoe to our national security? or does it increase our strategic risk of war? i think it s more theth latter. when you add montenegro or albania, we have a resolution before us in congressut right nw that i have been opposingve that says anybody in the world who wants to join nato, anyone who is qualified can. we can have 50-60 countries.s. we can have equatorial guinea in there. if molly attacks equatorial guinea, we are in a world war. every member of the foreign relations committee voted against my amendment and all my amendmentmi would have done waso strip out the section that would have said we invite any aspirant to join.
montenegro. i think the president isn t getting the credit he deserves for raising the issue of realigning nato. as you worry about whether we will defend nato, it seems to be the reaction that nato has saved the western civilization. the president of the united states is the one who in his campaign that started talking about reorienting nato. you talked about washington being ossified and dumb, this is a president who came in with bright ideas, who was attacked from every element of the establishment and those who are invested deeply in the status quo including nato. the reality is as we watch cable television today, the folks you were talking about on cnn are
country. and yet a suddenly because of an act of congress that few people noticed, montenegro has profound significance to every american. since last year, montenegro has been a member of the nato alliance. that means if it ever findsn itself in a war, our military is pledged to defend it. that s called a defense guarantee. defense guarantees don t seem like a big deal until suddenlyly they are, that s when the first world war started. 37 million casualties later the world began to rethink the wisdom of treaties like that but thet lesson seems to have been lost since. in our interview with president trump in finland we thought it might be worth having a conversation or starting one about american s obligations to nato. we ask the simple question, why is it in our interest to defend the territorial integrity of montenegro? why should our soldiers fight andol die on its behalf? here s the exchange were had. so membership in nato obligates members to defend any other member from attack.