turnout on both sides is expected to be far higher. let s turn to wisconsin state senator lina taylor, who has been on the front lines since day one. she was one of the wisconsin 14 that left the state that pretty much got the ball rolling. you know what s interesting about all of this, lina, and great to have you with us tonight, is that collective bargaining does not poll very well in wisconsin. and the labor-favored candidate did not win last night. how do you break that all down? what does it mean? well, first of all, ed, this is about not just collective bargaining, so to say, it s about whether or not people should have the opportunity to be at the table, whether or not wisconsin with values will be respected, whether or not you believe that government should be transparent and your elected official should be honest and that you can depend on them. that they will not sell us out and do pay for play. that they won t do so many things that would ultimately make you not believe or
walker s republican primary opponent to win in an upset. so many republicans may have just stayed home. we ll have to see. democrats shouldn t get too complacent over all of these numbers. in the actual recall election, turnout on both sides is expected to be far higher. let s turn to wisconsin state senator lina taylor, who has been on the front lines since day one. she was one of the wisconsin 14 that left the state that pretty much got the ball rolling. you know what s interesting about all of this, lina, and great to have you with us tonight, is that collective bargaining does not poll very well in wisconsin. and the labor-favored candidate did not win last night. how do you break that all down? what does it mean? well, first of all, ed, this is about not just collective bargaining, so to say, it s about whether or not people should have the opportunity to be at the table, whether or not wisconsin with values will be
a true example of his lack of leadership when he was the county executive. all right. so i hope that people will remember that. and we will see if the shoe drops legally before election day. you never know. he s got a legal defense fund. oh, right. meet john doe. well, we have spent a lot of time covering this and now we re in the i guess turning the hourglass here, going to june 5th. it is the template against citizens united. it is the people against the corporate money, the special interests money. the country is watching wisconsin. it s going to be a very interesting month. obviously, we will be intensely following this story. wisconsin state senator, lina taylor, always, great to have you with us. thank you. there s a lot more coming up in the next half hour of the ed show. stay right here. the effort to describe republicans as being anything other than extraordinarily pro-woman, that kind of effort is totally missing the mark. mitt romney tries to spin the r
well, president obama did that. yeah, he did do that. and i m of the view that as much as i support this from a policy wise, i think the politics might be mixed. i mean win understand what bob and others are saying about creating or energizing the youth vote and where independents are on this issue, but at the same time, i think, you know, look at what happened in north carolina, just yesterday, and talking to people close to obama, it s clear to me that they kind of that they did not see a clear, obvious, political gain in this move. you know, it may work to their benefit, maybe by november it will, but it may not. and that ended up not being the primary calculation in what the president did. i think it s very hard to sort out what impact this will have. and those few states that you and i are going to be focusing on between now and november. bob shrum, david corn, great to have you with us on the ed show tonight. thanks so much. wisconsinites are fired up and ready to go,
governor walker keeps saying that he is the subject of a huge negative ad campaign by the quote/unquote big labor bosses, but that has not been there. that s not reality. so he s lying? well, let s just say he s not well, let me put it this way. john deen, the watergate figure, said the other day that walker is more nixonian than nixon. the founder of the united with wisconsin, the group that led the movement for the recall walker, what s that mean? he was endorsed by barbara lotten, by congresswoman guinn moore, by lina taylor. so he s getting a lot of useful endorsements. and the united wisconsin movement is a very grassroots movement. but kathleen faulk, his opponent, still has significant labor support. it s a real primary. it is a real primary and it s coming up within the month. now, the next thing is, and i keep saying this, i sense this on the road, that people around the country get this, as the template, and the vice president told me this when i interviewed him l