russians are trying to infiltrate the campaigns as well as the election meets secretly at a secret club with his number two, with someone with ties to russian intelligence and hands him polling data. now, people are going to parse whether that data was important or not important. just take a step back. like, two plus two equals four. this is the reality of what this campaign was doing. at no stage did they feel any responsibility to stop this russian madness. in fact, they were willing to spoke cigars with these guys and that s what s sometimes lost in the details of did he lie or not lie about one of these points. i think you put it aptly, when you take a step back and lay it out, it s clear. that does beg the question of what juliette laid out, did the president know and what s the standard, right, for judging whether he knew or was actively encouraging this happening. you know, what s the