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remains on the table. so, we started with one package of sanctions. we have four now in place. and there is an ongoing discussion about the energy question, because i accept fully your point that we continue to do business because we rely on energy. and the key here is, what impact would it have if we were to do exactly that, withdraw from purchasing energy from russia or, as you say, de swift extra banks? we have to make sure that the sanctions impact russia and don t boomerang in a very negative way, notjust on the european economy, but it could have consequences globally. so i think we are taking the right approach, but i can fully understand and empathise with the comments of president zelensky. sorry, commissioner. crosstalk i want to be clear about what you re saying. are you saying that, yeah, you ll take measures, you ll impose sanctions, but only as long as they don t really hurt europeans? is that what you re saying? no, not at all. i think i was particular about energy. look

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