tough, and what we hope is that kiev can understand that russia does have an interest in this. and that they are going to come up with a government in ukraine that recognizes that interest. and ambassador hill, senator bob corker on the air said something a short time ago that they are considering in the senate, and the white house reactions and the punishments for russia, and the penalties for this, and he said that no matter what we do, russia is going to stay. sobering, do you share that assessment? well, it is a sobering assessment. and now i think that there are a lot of nuances to this. if russia dismembers ukraine and grabs the eastern part, they are pretty much asured that the western part will gallop westward and that is not in russia s interests, so maybe they are trying to simply put a heck of a lot of pressure on kiev to come up with a government that respects sort of russian interests in this. as they, you know, look to cut
is the highest level possible, and any incursion into ukraine by the russian military will be an act of war, and they would respond with their mi military might, and that would essentially cut off any relationship between ukraine and russia. right now though they say that their security forces around nuclear power stations and airports are also on high alert. a although the prime minister said that he is urging calm. that they don t want this to turn into a real shooting war e between the ukrainian military and the russian military. they are watching also the situation in the crimea that once the russians are to leave that area a and pull back to their military base in the crimea, and other troops who have gone into other places from rush sharks and they want them out, and asked for calm, and asked the european union to send in monitors to make shure that
and now, coming back to talk about it is former ambassador christopher hill on the phone, and steven cohen, professor emeritus at the princeton and columbia university, and this is where past is a prologue, and i want to start with you, first, ambassador hill. what do we see here that is similar to the cold war days, but without going so far, because there are many differences as well, but is russia, and this is a point that we talked about before trying to set up the old sphere of influence that it had before of the fall of the berlin wall, and before the collapse of the soviet union? well, if you live in poland and i have lived there for several years, the polls often say that a russia without ukraine is just russia, but russia with ukraine is somehow a recreation of the soviet union, and these are huge stakes, and you are quite right, it goes back to the waning days of world war ii, but it goes back to before that when stalin essentially gave parts of poland
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the people in ukraine will not be discriminated against. and there was fledgling signs that was said in the u.n. national security meeting earlier today, and he mentioned the possibility of coming out of kiev, the new ukrainian government in kiev to broaden the government, and add more representation in ukraine where you have a heavy population, and can you explain how important it is and how the reception has been to that offer at this point? well, that is extremely important, because you are right, the eastern part of ukraine leans towards russia. this is a country that is fairly divided down the middle, and you can t say that one side is completely with the pro europe, and the eastern side is completely leaning towards russia, but it is a very stark contrast there and it is important for ukraine to move forward as a country and as a