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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 05:54:00

relationship with mark angelucci in california. they were both part of what was described as the men s rights movement, which embraces all things masculine. california detectives had interviewed crouch about his organization. the national coalition for man. now the fbi was calling him. he knew the shooter. hollander was actually in your group at one point, in your organization? yes, and i threw him out. why? because of his character, because of his antics. he threatened to come down to california to kick my ass, that is a quote. according to harry, dan hollander wanted to join the group s federal lawsuit, the one that argued against a male only draft. i told him that was not going to happen. i was surprised he did not come shoot me instead of mark. do you think hollander was jealous of mark? absolutely. remember, mark had a win in that case. this was revenge? most assuredly, yes. the pieces of the puzzle were now quickly coming together. the fbi determined the

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 05:52:00

a quick search of the man s car, agents found those dossiers on the judge angelucci. they also discovered the dead man s name, roy hollander. what were you learning about him? he was 72 years old at the time of his death. he was highly educated, a practicing attorney. anything else the agent wanted to know about hollander, was found in a 1500-page manifesto on his computer. the pages dripped with hatred of women, like his ex wife, a russian bride who dumped him when she got to america. but hollander saved the brunt of his anger for his mother writing, may she burn in hell. so he was clearly a massage east. all of the failures of his life, all of the shortcomings were his doing. he blamed them on women. the fbi learned he appeared on tv several times, ranting about anti feminist lawsuits he filed. several years ago, he appeared on the colbert report, showing off his break dancing moves, and was mockingly called a difference maker for ladies nights at bars were

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 05:53:00

discriminatory. it was looking very likely that this was the man responsible for both shootings. the judge and mark angelucci were on what appeared to be a lengthy hit list found in hollander s car. also on that list? other judges and attorneys. and something unexpected. there were people in the medical field. doctors who had treated hollander. the fbi learned from reading his website that he was dying from a rare form of melanoma. do you think this played into wet he did, and kind of going out in a blaze of lori? it is a logical theory, that was sort of putting his anger on steroids, so to speak. now, the fbi scrambled to connect the dots between hollander, the judge and mark angelucci. throughout the next few hours, we would piece together that the subject, roy dan hollander, had a professional

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20211003 08:56:00

life. so why was hollander targeting the judge? she had nothing to do with angelucci s lawsuit. turned out that hollander filed a similar lawsuit involving the draft. his case was in new jersey, and presiding over the case was none other than judge salas. i knew the case, but it was not one that sort of even registered as a potential threat. and you were sort of on his side? you ruled for him? that is the ironic part. the judge had allowed hollander s case to move forward. you must ask yourself, why? why my family? that someone was told, me he hated you the moment you are born. and that is something i could not change. because you are a woman? because i am a woman, and hispanic. because of the number of pages the manifesto, denahan found multiple references to judge salas. he said things about her. that she was hot.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20211003 08:52:00

self inflicted gunshot wound to the head, with a.380 caliber handgun. a quick search of the man s car, agents found those dossiers on the judge angelucci. they also discovered the dead man s name, roy hollander. what were you learning about him? he was 72 years old at the time of his death. he was highly educated, a practicing attorney. anything else the agent wanted to know about hollander, was found in a 1500-page manifesto on his computer. the pages dripped with hatred of women, like his ex wife, a russian bride who dumped him when she got to america. but hollander saved the brunt of his anger for his mother writing, may she burn in hell. so he was clearly a massage east. all of the failures of his life, all of the shortcomings were his doing. he blamed them on women. the fbi learned he appeared on tv several times, ranting about anti feminist lawsuits he filed. several years ago, he appeared on the colbert report, showing

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