they were full, but, of course, the swell of the water against the boat means it was bobbing up and down. they found a way how to stabilize it a little more and we transferred from boat to boat that went alongside the coastguard unit. it was the most daunting prospect going on your back side down this rope ladder at an angle to twist and turn and hold the rope ladder to jump down into this boat which was bobbing up and down. aches and pains show that i m not used to that. greta: it s extraordinary story. deeply troubling that so many people lost their lives. i m happy for you and your wife. congratulations on your wedding and marriage. i bresh yate you joining us.