socialist. their policies prove that almost daily. look, when all the answers emanate from washington, d.c., one size fits all, whether it s education policy or whether it s health care policy, that is on its face socialism. this is where the fight between him and romney is going to play out. in the end, a lot of people think that mitt romney will be the nominee because there s just too much roughness, too many questions about rick perry. when i interviewed him, our assumption was that he would use the opportunity to try to speak to that audience, mostly an establishment audience and say i have strong views, but i can be a little bit more reserved. he didn t back off at all. he said, socialist administration, social security is a ponzi scheme. he is not going to back off. and in romney world they look at that and say, this is going to be even easier than we thought. the guy is doubling, tripling down on everything, stylistically, as well. that s the fight. and if rick perry s right a
we just try to do what works. and the fundamental problem that we ve got in america today, i think, or parts of the economics, is that conflict makes good politics. sharp ideology and all this stuff, that s been very successful politically, but it s lousy for economic policymaking. if you look at the places that are really successful in america today, look at silicon valley, look at the computer simulation boom in orlando, and lots of other examples, in those places, without exception, you have cooperation between a vibrant private sector and a smart government. and cooperation is great for the economy, but it doesn t work as well politically. so we ve got this big disconnect between politics and economics, and until we close it, we re going to have a hard time coming back. mr. president, two quick ones before you go, if i can. so who do you think is the republican nominee? i don t know. it s early. right now it looks like governor perry and governor romney are doing very well.
because we believe an educated world is a better world. everyone always wants to slap a big narrative on presidential debates. romney versus perry, the fall of michele bachmann and the irrelevance of ron paul, but as often, debates are collections of interesting moments that may or may not end up mattering in the campaign or tell us something profound for candidates. to go through some of the highlights is michelle cottle of the daily beast and newsweek. one thing, michelle, that a lot of folks enjoyed about it, because you felt like you were watching a real campaign here is the clash between mitt romney and rick perry and when they got down into it in jobs they had a funny mirror image of one another. take a listen. michael dukakis created jobs three times faster than you did,
andrea: it will happen eventually when they address each other head on. start early, especially if your campaign is flailing like romney s is. bob: if you opened up perry s closet it would sound like the boston pops at the fourth of july. are you kidding me? you never heard the boston pops? eric: trying to figure out the analogy. bob: never mind, never mind. it usually gets last for people who are tuned in. they told me i had to tease. okay, producer, i will. stay with the five. because we have more on 2012, the republicans. so much news to cover, including michele bachmann. yes, another story! crossover sport and the white house response to rue mars that hillary clinton is planning 2012 run. watch this one.
social security. guest the up side is you were lying before. bob: that was to get votes and get my mother to go to the polls. what do you want to move on to? sorry. andrea: i think what rick perry said is true. speaking from someone who will by the time it s projected may be collecting social security benefits. by 2017, social security will be, not pay out more than it collects. you have 80 million baby boomers coming in the system. 2037, it will be drained. you have to do something about it. bob: i have a crying towel out for you. we have to talk about romney versus perry. talk about dumb and dumber. there is a lot of heat coming down between the two of them. eric: you are so bad. bob: now, finally, romney decided that perry is a real serious obstacle and started to take him on a little bit. eric: don t we have the animation, every time you say something smart it comes true a couple days later. we have a big genie hat thing on? didn t we all say rick perry