and then there was neil bush, the son of george h. w. bush and, brother to george and jeff. during his father s administration, neil bush wound up getting sued by federal regulators for his alleged role in a banking scandal. and the president s son, neil, must explain at a public hearing why he approved $45 million in loans for a business partner. i ve got nothing to hide. i ve cooperated fully, will continue to do so. my view is the sooner the better. neil bush eventually settled that case out of court, and then there where the clinton siblings. bill s brother, roger clinton, and hillary s brother, hugh rodham. both of whom got caught in alleged pay to play scandals during the clinton administration. roger carson was a musket of congress, but he was never charged. and more accusations this morning against the former presidents brother, roger clinton, in a scandal surrounding his last-minute pardons. the new york times reports roger clinton and his business partner s are accuse
of their family. that s the metric that we re shooting for. and i know you love roger carson. he s an american hero, did this job for trump, doing it with biden, all praise to him. at the time we should note your family was the only family of a detainee held in russia to have met with president biden. do you think that actually made a difference? there s no doubt. we said for a year and a half before that meeting we just need to get through the bureaucracy to the man who makes the decisions, and once he hears about our son personally and what he s going through, that he will make it happen. and 27 days later trevor was a free man. and you heard president biden the other night saying something talking about this issue. right, and the thing was like you said more famous people we weren t famous. we re just regular people. but i think it s because we never let up, and we just kept going and going and going. and after that happened and because the president is compassionate perso
doing what you were before and fitting back in with things so that s good. well, you look great and your parents look ten years younger than the last time i saw them. oh, that s the make-up. no, it s not. so joey and paula the bring our families home campaign is to get president biden to meet with the detained american families and not just the ones that are quote-unquote famous, not just the ones that are notable. i want to play a part of lead u.s. hostage envoy roger carson s on the christiana amanpour show when asked why biden wouldn t meet with americans of detained families. of that number only two of those families met with the president. so there were 25 majors that were brought home in the last over two years whose families never met with the president of the united states. the real measure of success is whether someone comes home, steps on the tarmac on u.s. soil and falls into the loving arms
conversation? i m not sure. we haven t had an opportunity to speak to him. why not? that surprises me. i think timing as much as anything. and, of course, paul is the detainee. you know, they have their own relationship now, they re own discussion. but we do speak to other people within the u.s. government and, of course, we were delighted to hear about that phone call. it s really important for paul s morale that he knows he has that support. we also heard from the envoy for hostage affairs overseas, these discussions with russia and that is roger carson who spoke with your brother a few weeks ago. told cnn, paul sings the national anthem every day from his prison cell. do you know anything else about what his life is like detained now? we don t have a lot of details. he can speak to my parents in
before he s executed. um what s going on to stop this? we were disappointed in that ruling. we were hopeful that the chinese would perhaps relent and allow mark to come home. as you said he s been held for 10 years now in pre trial detention, some pretty tough conditions. i ve had a chance to fly down to see his mother on a few occasions. my team is actually flying down tomorrow to see her to spend some time with her to discuss what we re doing, but we have a we have an effort right now with the chinese and we have to just kind of let things play out. this is tough. at the end of the day, the chinese just like the russians, they hold the key to the gel cell, and it s going to be up to us to find that way to bring him back. all right. roger carson, special presidential envoy for hostage affairs. you have a tough job. we appreciate your coming here on jake coming up. it s one of the most dangerous treks in the world. cnn spends five days walking through the darien gap, the same journey.