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that america s presence does not provide security in any part of the world at all. but it is disruptive for the security around the world. afghanistan clearly showed that when the neas two decades, the american presence has caused a lot of riots of the afghan people to be ignored. what has happened is against human rights and this can be seen by all. the solution for afghanistan is that a government must be established by the vote and will of the people. the islamic republic of iran has always pursued peace and harmony in afghanistan and the ending of bloodshed in afghanistan after the will of the afghan people terrain. afghanistan after the will of the afghan people to reign. rodger shanahan is a research fellow at the lowy institute and also a former army officer who served in afghanistan. hejoins me now from sydney. let s start with the intelligence chief, the pakistani intelligence chief visiting. what do you make of

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