retired general mark hertling. thank you, gentlemen. i appreciate you being here. general, i just want to tell you i appreciate your remarks and the way you handle the coverage of the remains of the service members returning here. thanks, don. that s kind. thank you very much for that. riveted and just it was just a great way you ve paid tribute to those service members. so, john, i m going to start with you, though. the u.s. is officially out of afghanistan, but we re told that there are still between 100 and 200 americans who needed to be evacuated. what are you hearing from the white house? is there a plan to get all of these people out of the country? don, it mostly involves exerting diplomatic pressure by the united states and its allies on the taliban to live up to the commitments that alex mentioned in that piece, to allow safe passage for people with proper documentation to leave the country through the kabul
it s not very real, chris. the problem is that the islamic state as you said is mixed in with the taliban. even the taliban don t know who they are. these suicide bombers can manufacture the stuff at home. they don t have bases. they don t have a command structure like we know. sometimes, they are not up on cell phones. so to strike back at them is gonna be nearly impossible. i know we d like to, but you just can t. colonel, were you able to hear the interview with the woman we had in the last segment? i was. yes. i was riveted. i was. that kind of desperation. how do we have the logistical means in this kind of window to get any kind of process that efficiently can get out any significant number of the people who remain? well, i i i think it s a remarkable achievement, what we have gotten so far. i mean, we re we re i think we had just gone over
and if you re an active or retired federal employee you may qualify to get eargo at no cost to you. we re going to stay riveted on any indications and warnings of al qaeda or now also the islamic state which has an affiliate in the outback region of them with them establishing the kind of sanctuary we went to afghanistan in the first place to eliminate. it s vastly more difficult
ideology is not defeated? it is a very important question and i know it s one with which the c.i.a., the pentagon and others are very much seized. we are going to stay riveted on any indications and warnings of al qaeda or now also the islamic state which has an affiliate in the region as well of them establishing the kind of sanctuary we went to afghanistan in the first place to eliminate. the sanctuary as you know from your time in the white house, the sanctuary in which the 9/11 attacks were planned and initial training of the attackers was conducted. and we will be riveted on that. but it is vastly more difficult without the kind of footprint, without the kind of access to human sources, to friendly forces, and all the rest of that to do that. keep in mind we not only now have no bases in afghanistan, which are hugely valuable not just for the effort in afghanistan but for the
officials to pursue for testimony. not to mention the growing number of congressional republicans who have admitted having some contact with donald trump during or before the insurrection. subpoenaing them could lead to an unprecedented legal and political showdown. plenty for us to discuss with our saturday night panel. pete dominick is a stand-up comedian and host of the podcast stand up with pete dominick. hayes brown is a columnist and editor for msnbc daily. and ana marie cox is a political columnist and host of the podcast with friends like these. glad to have these friends with us. hayes, let me start with you. after the testimony we heard on tuesday, i did not expect to watch all 3 1/2 hours of that on my day off. once i turned it on, i was riveted. i could not turn it off, because they gave four different kinds of testimony with four very different kinds of interlocking perspectives about what happened and what needs to happen now. hayes, what is your sense of what happens