state senator gretchen witmer, and the reverend charles williams. president of the michigan chapter of the national action network and senior pastor of the historic king solomon baptist church in detroit. thank you, all three for joining me tonight. great to be with you. thank you. congressman peters, let me start with you. the governor snyder has signed this bill. now, what s the next step? this is absolutely outrageous. what we ve seen in the last hours. compete about face from a governor who said this should not be part of the agenda. and to do this without any hearings. then what i think is particularly outrageous. the next step is we could have gone to a referendum. put it on the ballot for the voters to make a decision. particularly in a state like
to do this. it was planned well in advance. they sprung it quickly before anybody could really react. reverend williams, does this effect people in your church? people that attend? regular people? this is more than just union bosses. how does this affect ordinary average people in michigan? well, reverend sharpton, right to work means no rights at work. and so we unequivocally understand that these laws are only to break and bust collective bargaining agreements. we understand that is only going to make it so the wages are lower. and as you know and as the statistics show and have shown throughout the years is that seven out of the ten states that are right to work states are the poorest states in the country. this is absolutely ludicrous. and when you talk about the koch brothers and you talk about all of the right wing alignments, this is the same governor that when we fought against him to
talked to william jasper, the leader of the church in atlanta. he s speaking to many pastors on how they want to approach this. they want to approach the entire scandal with prayer. here s what he had to say. we re examination in our prayers that god would give us directions as it relates to the church and what the church should do, and how it is we should respond to all that is going on this week. talking to reverend williams, what you find out is that this scandal, we are talking about the new birth church, is impacting congregations all across the country. because, of course whether they re a mega church or a small church. this raises the same issue. trust. and that s why if the congregation believes it is strictly limited to new birth, it s not. wow, this is fascinating stuff, it seems to change by the minute. we know you re on it all day long. the next time we talk, it might change again. thanks for that update on what may or may not happen involving
nationalactionnetwork.net. sign up and stand up. joining me now is the reverend charles williams, the senior pastor of detroit s historic king solomon baptist church, and the reverend vivian nixon, executive director of college and community fellowship. revere reverend williams, last week we had a rabbi of the reformed jewish who heads religious action for reformed judaism, who is one of the leaders of this thousand ministers march with myself and you and others. and it seems, as i said, more than ever, i moved this up in the show, because i think the way you answer the bigotry, the racism and anti-semitism of yesterday is showing black and jewish and other faith leaders together, nonviolently, going to