million people in this country have who are here illegally have gone through extensive due process, have removal orders, and have not left. that s how many of those people are you going to forcefully we ll see how many ice rolls on with. joining me now charlie savage, washington correspondent for the new york times, and also pam alevy. welcome to you both. i want to get charlie s reaction on the president s tweets. what do you think prompted this? well, i think president trump is deeply enjoying the schism emerging on the left between the more progressive members of congress who are representing districts where democrats have a plus 25, plus 30 advantage. there s no up side for them in moderating. in fact, several of them got their seats by primary challenging more conservative or more moderate democrats. and nancy pelosi trying to hold
back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. then come back and show us how it s done, he added. nancy pelosi would be very happy to workout free travel arrangements. it coming from the president of the united states. the house speaker responded, i reject the president s citiz xenophobic comments. ten major cities are targeted. new orleans and houston are also on the list but are postponed because of tropical storm barry. 2,000 people are on the list to be arrested and potentially deported. that out of 1 million who already have final removal orders. this hour msnbc is not able to confirm whether the raids have indeed started. other reports say this. the wall street journal reports last night that new york
trump administration won t rule out whether children caught in the dragnet would be separated from parents. there are a million people, including families, with removal orders. i m not going to say yes or no to anything like that because then certain people out there can write themselves off the list or find a way to play a loophole. and taking shots. president trump lashing out at a group of democratic freshmen congresswomen, saying that they should go back to fix the crime-infested places from which they came. those four lawmakers, all women of color. how they re responding at this hour. and tropical storm barry winds weakening, but the real problem is only now beginning. the water rescues taking place right now and the new warning from officials of life-threatening floods ahead. but we are going to begin this hour with tense hours for people, families, really, living in several large cities in this country. immigration officials with orders right now to carry out
people as it can that have these final orders. we re talking about 150,000 people last year detained. 250,000 people deported out of of the country. the other thing that has to be discussed and i think the way that we sort of laid this out this hour is perfect. this is all part of a branding exercise by the president. the detention facilities at the border, the tweets, the announcement of these i.c.e. rates and keep in mind the first announcement of these i.c.e. raids came two weeks ago. this is designed to keep these communities on edge, it s designed to make an impact and fire up the base and drive a wedge between republicans and democrats. the problem is you hear that you ll have this collateral damage, which is people that should not be caught up in these raids will be caught up in these raids. let s go to hans nichols at the white house. what we hear is these are final removal orders. these are i.c.e. agents that are working hard. this is not about them.
out of four came from the united states. it feeds this impression that the president is racist and pushing a racist agenda. he s running for president. you re wrapping up his rhetoric for presidential race in what is i.c.e. s every day job, enforcing what congress has passed. we re paying attention from the news standpoint but this is their job every day. we have compassionate loyal i.c.e. agents just doing their job. it shows you how far we ve fallen in that it s become news they would actually go deport people who have removal orders. in your earlier segment, cnn had a tag line underneath the mayor that said undocumented. they aren t undocumented. they have court order on a piece of paper, that says they have gotten due process, over a million people with removal orders. have the raids started? i can t speak to operational specifics and i won t.