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China became. before china became a member. now things have changed substantially. so, china. so, is it time for you, the wto, to get tougher on china? what it is time to do is for the wto members to say to themselves if they are not happy with some of the earlier agreements that were made, and the world is changing and evolving those agreements should be re looked at, they should be, you know, re examined. it s not that, when you make an agreement, it s set in stone forever, because the world is changing rapidly. so, what we should be doing is saying, how do we need to look at these agreements? how do they need to change to reflect the changes in the world? so that s what i would advocate. and, actually, there is an emerging movement now in reform of the wto. that s what the reform process is, to reform those things that
In reform of the wto. that s what the reform process is, to reform those things that are not working as well, because they were negotiated at a time when the world was so different. all right. right. and maybe one of the new shifting priorities of the wto has to be climate change and decarbonisation, and the role that international trade maybe can play in a decarbonisation agenda. you have said, quote, greening trade is urgent. well, it s a nice phrase, but how do you green trade? well, i never use nice phrases unless i mean them, stephen. and what i mean to say is that people typically think of trade as part of the problem. and, yes, to some extent it is, of course the logistics of trade. of course, logistics, shipping. ..the way some products are. ..transportation, packaging. yes, the way some products are traded and so on. but trade is also squarely
That s what the reform process is, to reform those things that are not working as well, because they were negotiated at a time when the world was so different. all right. right. and maybe one of the new shifting priorities of the wto has to be climate change and decarbonisation, and the role that international trade maybe can play in a decarbonisation agenda. you have said, quote, greening trade is urgent. well, it s a nice phrase, but how do you green trade? well, i never use nice phrases unless i mean them, stephen. and what i mean to say is that people typically think of trade as part of the problem. and, yes, to some extent it is, of course the logistics of trade. of course, logistics, shipping. ..the way some products are. ..transportation, packaging. yes, the way some products are traded and so on.
Before china became a member. now things have changed substantially. so, china. so, is it time for you, the wto, to get tougher on china? what it is time to do is for the wto members to say to themselves if they are not happy with some of the earlier agreements that were made, and the world is changing and evolving those agreements should be re looked at, they should be, you know, re examined. it s not that, when you make an agreement, it s set in stone forever, because the world is changing rapidly. so, what we should be doing is saying, how do we need to look at these agreements? how do they need to change to reflect the changes in the world? so that s what i would advocate. and, actually, there is an emerging movement now in reform of the wto. that s what the reform process is, to reform those things that are not working as well, because they were negotiated at a time when the world