telling the employers, look, you ve been ensured your workers are vaccinated or you can say, look, test every week so we know you re not infectious. or your workers can work at home. there are lots of options. this isn t a vaccine requirement at all. it s a hazard mitigation requirement. dr. michaels, thank you for being with us. dr. david michaels was the osha administrator during the obama administration. he s professor at george washington school of public health. we saw record voting turnout in 2020. the response to that achievement might surprise you. that s next. at achievement might surprise you that s next.