discussions and you have to call them out. it s especially important when white men call them out because we don t hear that enough. we always hear it s a conversation we need to have. and then either you don t have it, right, nothing gets accomplished or you have the conversation and people say that you re race baiting. so then you can t have it both ways. when you want to have a conversation. so that you prevent things like this from happening, it is then called race-baiting. kamau, you deal with that on your show all the time. yeah, the thing we have to realize, those of us who want to have the conversation we have to keep having the conversation over and over again. and we are going to be called race baiters or all sorts of other horrible things. this is a conversation that needs to be had. we have to have the guts enough to keep having it even when it s hard. the problem in this country is you want to have one conversation and get it over with. it s not one conversation. we ha
it does not move swiftly in the united states. i m glad that it doesn t because pen you move too fast, you can make mistakes. sheriff, quickly before i let you go can the relationship between many in this community and many of the police in this community be healed? can it come together? from your perspective as a sheriff? well, first of all, it s a myth that it doesn t. the black community relies on the police officers. the black community has a great relationship with the officers that serve their community. the race baiters, the cop haters the criminals do not have a good relationship with the american police officer. and they never will. so we re not worried about them. sheriff clarke i wish i had a whole lot more come with you to discuss. i have to go. i invite you to come back on with me next weekend and talk about this sir. thanks for being with any. any time, poppy. we ll be right back. i m caridee. i ve had moderate to severe plaque psoriasis most of my life. but tha
scotty, we heard from the co-founder much the black lives matter movement that group shut down the mall of america. some of those people have also shut down traffic in cities like new york and l.a. do they have a right to continue to disrupt people s lives and businesses like this? my the question i have to ask what is victory. continue until we reach victory. ought of all of these race baiters, insta gaters you don t know what the actual victory means it them. does it mean burning down your own community and shutting down businesses so you don t have economic development? does it mean sitting there and stopping cap tammism and destroying people s christmas holiday spirit or shopping at the mall? or in this case does it mean being absolutelily irrelevant and hurting the people who did everything and basically sacrificed their lives to protect yours. what is victory to the other side? well, i m not sure that s an answerable question. i think it s more about
there really, though? because, bernie, mayor de blasio ran on an anti-cop platform. he made no bones about the fact this he was going to come into office and he was going to push to get read of stop and frisk, which disproportionately benefits minority communities and high crime communities. and that s the whole point here. i know you say the cops, we know they re brave. nypd are the best in the nation, and they re still going to show up and do their jobs, but i have to be honest, bernie, if i m a cop right now, i m thinking why would i want to do this job? because if they stop doing their job, and you know this better than anyone, and they stop policing these high crime neighborhoods? who does that hurt? it doesn t hurt me in my neighborhood. this goes back to what i was saying yesterday. people have criticized the police department, you know, the race baiters and they re going into minority communities to
lives matter. this was not the case. this is you couldn t even compare this with ferguson or the garner case in new york. all right. harris, i want to go to you, because this story is getting some coverage today. even though the mayor says, a completely different scenario, as ferguson was from the situation in new york with garner, do you think that people will jump on this to try and capitalize the race-baiters, al sharptons of the world? do you see this added to already existing storyline? we already know that people are not necessarily watching for the facts in these situations, right? so is there a tinderbox standing out there with people waiting to glom on? we know that from ferguson. half the people coming from other areas didn t know who the heck michael brown was. what we have today is interesting. this police department did something very smart. they released surveillance video immediately, right? they said it looked like this