this shutdown is one that the democrats own. this would be very easy to resolve. and they don t want to do it. they don t want to do it even if you lookk at the media, the washington post today, cnn, folks, they have trump gone in three months. they believe that in three months, they will have fractured trump s base,, i.e., you. jason: so what are the ramifications of this political showdown? joiningg us now is rnc chairwomn ronna mcdaniel and fox news political analyst gianno caldwell. thank you both foror joining us here. ronna, i want to start with you because the messaging from the democrats has been aboutth abolishing i.c.e., about open borders, about supporting sanctuary cities, not building the wall. how in the world do they have a winning message with the american people? they don t, jason.
for things as serious as possessing or selling drugs, these are the hard-core drugs, so when you think about these facts, these irrefutable facts, how could they not want to protect our country? only because they believe they can correlate some of these votes to protect their party and stay in power. jason: ronna, i think part oo the messaging actually should be, let s do what the border patrol wants to do. we have a lot of these political pundits, we have these members of congress who have never been down to the border, i was in congress for eight years, i went to the border multiple times, chasing guys who had drugs, all these things. most of these members have never been there. why haven t the republicans shifted the focus to the border patrol, the people who put their lives on the line every day, and focus on what they want? they do want the wall. they are also the experts. they are dealing with this every day, they are on the front lines. if you go to the doctor and they say,
how does this how should this affect them or does it not? yeah, jason, it really is stunning. the montages that you showed. and it is very rich. the same radical secularists who wage war on christmas annually now invoking the baby jesus to support their radical open borders policies. it is not any surprise. this is really just a variation on the same tried and true theme of using children as political kiddy shields because they have no rational or logical defense to the policy argument that we should be completely defenseless on our borders. to use faith, i think, is the most cynical ploy of all of the rhetoricst that the democrats u. not to mention biblically and historically and geographically illiterate. the reason why there was no border wall in egypt is because,
reform, broad-based immigration reform, and securing our borders.ra jason: when the president gets an hour or two to address the nation in the state of the union affair and he gets to talk in front of members of congress, i have been there in the audience to listen eight times to barack obama try to tell me the way the world was, i was it was a fascinating thing. dr. gorka, the president is going to the southern border. what is the message you would like to see the president portray? marc is right, in addition to recognizing the incredible worke of cbp and i.c.e. and everyone who wears the uniform and protects us at the border, there is one very simple message: the wall will be built and thehe border is a national security issue, jason. you know as well as anybody else. this is not about illegals who are turned into a voting base for the democrats. this is about ms-13. it s about drug trafficking, it s about women who are raped as they come across the border..
from iraq, we re not stopping the fight against isis, and we are not ceding the territory and the regional control to iran, that is a good message for the president. can i just add something, jason? i think it would be worthwhile, there is all this focus right now on what this means, the president s rough week, and the press has been struggling and focusing on that. this is a straightforward story of a president going over to visit the troops, saying hello, which is a customary thing to do, and we should be celebrating it for that in and of itself. jason: marc, do you think we will see a lot of corrections on the front pages of the newspapers and talk shows across the country? is that going to happen? no, absolutely not.ot they are already picking apart every word that he said. and to kim s point, the only video and the only audio we really need to hear is, are those troops were chanting usa, usa when the president and first lady walked in there, they love their commander in chie