reasonable doubt but the question becomes that guess, is there evidence tha exists that doj could get that the committee could not? how necessary or relevant is that i am really glad you aske that question chris. there is a really importan missing piece here which is, what pat cipollone told donald trump. if you read chapter five there is a discussion for example of a raw meeting where cipollon was excluded from the meetin but they don t know, the committee doesn t know exactly why, because cipollone refused to answer questions around the subject regarding, because o executive privilege he refused to say what excites he gave trump and what he tol trump privately about this this is all questions we kno the justice department is goin to be able to ask cipollone subpoena, we also know the have done so in other words, they have gone and obtained that testimony an got the court order that the need and he has in fact, testifie it and i expect their initia questions what did you say to
likely than not, trump and dr. eastman dishonestly conspire to obstruct the joint sessio of congress on january 6th 2021 so you have already before thi report, renato, a federal judg saying there is something here it is not beyond a shadow of reasonable doubt but the question becomes that guess, is there evidence tha exists that doj could get that the committee could not? how necessary or relevant is that i am really glad you aske that question chris. there is a really importan missing piece here which is, what pat cipollone told donald trump. if you read chapter five there is a discussion for example of a raw meeting where cipollon was excluded from the meetin but they don t know, the committee doesn t know exactly why, because cipollone refused to answer questions around the subject regarding, because o executive privilege he refused to say what excites he gave trump and what he tol trump privately about this
leading the fight to catch these guys and very he aggressively out front in the corner. you know when there is a four alarm fire, you want to seat governor and mayor on the corner. i think they re both playing it very well. it s a question of what is your political strike as to who you root for? all right. amy? quick question chris. george pataki s point is that this doesn t actually hurt cuomo either, because he can take the high road because he owns it. and who did pataki beathe? beat mario cuomo. he is very aware of what you have to do if you re a democratic governor. act like governor, not like a democrat so much. act like governor. now reverend al had that right completely. chris matthews, thank you. we ll be watching hardball at 7:00 eastern. please do. it s doing very well these days. i hope you re one of the viewers. even though you have to go to bed. i watch every night. i seriously watch every night. i m so excited to watch. because she is already watching pol