interview with the intent of finding out more information about the people who abducted him. here was this pale white kid and i introduced myself and as he spoke back, immediately my something in me just said this is not right. there s something wrong here. i speak with him for a long time. he asked me to repeat all the stories i had been telling everybody. i remember people grabbing me, putting me in the van. i went to sleep and woke up in a room where there was other kids. i didn t see the same physiological change in his body posture, in his pupil size, in his heart rate that i would normally see with someone who is talking about a traumatic experience.