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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 21:06:00

better than anyone i ve ever seen in politics or any foreign leader. no, he s a former comedian, but also an actor and a television producer, and he has a really good sense of his audience. he s seen a lot of movies. he can refer to them, you know, and he lives very much, i think, within the same world that we live in. he s not exotic. he s not strange. he s watched the same movies you and i have watched and he s willing to talk about them and refer to them. we actually talked quite a bit about humor in the interview and how it s used and he has a very sophisticated understanding of it, that humor is sometimes a way to get truth to people. you don t have to give them complicated books or, you know, ph.d. theses. you can tell them a joke and instantly you can expose something about the nature of politics and the nature of reality, and that s how he

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:45:00

referral. eugene referred to the final stage of the investigation. what does that look like? yeah. i think they are getting close to the end here. they re doing something around 20, 30, 40 interviews a week depending on the week. it is believed they could wrap up this end of this month. they have sort of they re still a couple big names that could be the final interviews but they are in the closing stages. we know from the court filings, from the reporting that they do have a very strong case here. may be bringing some people back in for a second or third interview to get more details as they look to shore up this report and then move to educating the public on what they have found so i think close watchers of your show know this

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:41:00

trump was trying to incite the crowd to action. wow. explain. yes. so the january 6th committee was pressing the investigators on the committee were pressing miller in this interview yesterday about donald trump s speech at the ellipse on january 6 encouraging the mob to or what would become the mob, the crowd at the time, to march on the capitol, to fight what he called election fraud, and to try to keep him in office. and so they kept asking what did he mean when he said we? was this his intent? they were trying to get at whether or not he intended to incite the crowd. and stephen miller argued according to our sources in this interview that this speech was a normal speech why it was routine and using the rhetoric compared

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 21:09:00

the question of negotiations and a settlement for ukraine is extraordinarily difficult, because giving up any territory, it s not just about giving away land, it means that anything you give to this russian army means that you are giving your citizens away to torture, murder, rape, you know, we were in bucha, we were in the suburb north of kyiv the day after the interview, and we saw what happens to a town, very ordinary suburban town, when it s approved by the russian army. the houses are blown out. there are blackened doorways and smashed windows, and there were mass graves. the day that we were there, they were exhuming bodies that had been buried outside a church, and knowing that that s what s going to happen to your citizens, you know, every inch of territory that is lost, you know, is at risk of being destroyed in that way makes it very hard to be a leader. so, anne, it s heilemann

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 21:02:00

the new york times. picture the uss george washington going to the bottom of the ocean. despite ukraine s victory, areas of that country are still under constant shelling and new atrocities being committed against civilians every single day. president zelenskyy asked the biden administration to designate russia as a state sponsor of terrorism. that would trigger some of the most aggressive sanctions the u.s. government could adopt on any country. although the sources note that request did not carry the same priority as urgent appeals for more weapons and energy sanctions against russia. a revealing new interview in the atlantic paints a portrait of zelenskyy as a compassionate man doing whatever he can do to save his country and his people, described as, quote, a kind of anti-putin, rather than telegraphing a cold-eyed murderous superiority, he wants people to understand him as an everyman, a middle-aged dad with

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