ansley, okeydoke, has this cross-examination does so much damage to gates credibility? reporter: i think it puts a dents in his credibility. it remains to be seen if that will put a dents in the prosecution case, though. it seems for a large part of yesterday they were presenting a man shoo would not presenting a life to the jury. this is a man who was able to have a flat in london for his terrorist trysts. and it s unclear, why he kind of still seems squirrelly. and if he was there to fell the truth, as he just put out from that transcript, why wasn t he being more direct? why wasn t he being more remorseful? it may be that the jury is going to have a hard time believing but the prosecution, when they first started questioning him they were able to bring out a
telephoned that he and manafort committed crimes together, hiding millions from the u.s. government but he also admitted to embezzling. and on tuesday, he admitted to an extramarital affair as well and that gates lied. and saying that gates credibility is shot. saying after all the lies you ve told and the fraud you ve commits do you expect this jury to believe you? gates responds by saying, yes, i made a decision. i m here to tell the truth. here s the lawyer after the cross-examination. how do you think you did with mr. gates today? mr. manafort had a great day. had a great day. i don t know what he constitutes a great day. but if i was sitting there on trial potentially going to go to jail for the rest of my life, none of that would feel great. i want to bring in nbc s national security reporter julia
number of documents to corroborate great point by point, everything he was saying, the money he was moving illegally through the company that he ran with paul manafort. the lies that were told, they were able to corroborate all of that. we ll see what the defense will do to the way the character of this man was portrayed. that s very important it s not just he said versus he said. it s he said and he said these are the documents supporting these claims. pie want to bring in matt miller. mike pesca and caitlin huey burns with me. gates admitted he s a liar, adulter, i want to point out to all of you dudes out there for your mistress that you have to pay rent, i ve got to tell you if you pay rent, she actually doesn t like you. how does this play out in eyes
to do the same. caitlin, do you agree with that? is the prosecution relying on gates to prove misconduct or is gates part of a broader narrative to support the evidence they have. well, both gates and manafort have so much evidence against them. and to matt s point that evidence is there on paper in black and white. what s really interesting about this whole thing is, as much as trump tries to distance himself from it, saying these guys, this is totally not relate to me. he is hanging over the whole trial, i wonder because he responds in realtime, how the response is, remember just last week when this was ticking up, he ordered or encouraged, depending how you parse those words as the white house did, it called for ending it altogether. i think back, mike, when i sat here with anthony scaramucchi when he was talking about what a great judge of
of the jury? they don t pick their witness tess trial. the defendants do. and people committing criminal acts. they re not paying out to the sisters of notre dame. that s right. they re not committing the acts with nuns, they re committing acts with other criminals. the key for rick gates, one, the point about accountability he just highlighted. he said, look, i committed these criminal acts. i am here to admit to them, something that manafort is not going to do and i will pay a price. i m likely to have jail time because of the criminal acts. two, it s not just him coming in saying one thing and paul manafort saying another. you have evidence, repeated evidence, still witness to come with more evidence of paul manafort ordering these criminal acts to take place. while rick gates credibility is important and the jury has to believe him, they don t have to believe he s a saints. but they just have to believe that paul manafort committed criminal acts and directed him